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ok, I just called disney, and spoke to a disability specialist, and she said that it really isn't that much to have her added to the MYW package, it's only $39. a day! (well it's a big deal if you don't have it!!) anyhoo, she also said that if we did not want to add her, we could make our reservations as normal, just not add her at all, then two weeks before arriving, call the Magical Express transportation, give them our booking number, and explain the situation, and HOPEFULLY they will get it, and send a wheelchair accessible bus for her! she agreed with me, that the policy dosen't make much sense, I'd almost rather have her on the plan, just to avoid a hassle of them "having no record of her!" which is essentially what will happen! we will show up, and they will have no record of her coming, and what about the medical supplies being shipped down in her name? will they be refused, because "she's not coming???" ug. we're just supposed to show up at the resort, and buy her theme park tickets there. I'm not really comfortable with all that mess!!!! so, that is what happened!
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I'm kind of confused here. Is it even possible for you not to put her on your reservation at all? Surely they need to know that she'll be in the room at the resort for fire code reasons if nothing else. Did the specialist say if there's a way to put her on the reservation and the rest of the MYW package with you, just not on the dining plan itself?
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I know that this small problem is certainly not the toughest problem you and your family face from day to day, and I know that since you obviously have the strength to deal with the tougher issues, you will be able to deal with this.
In determining whether to buy the MYW plan, consider the following.....If it is just the three of you, your party would receive 3 TS credits, 3 CS credits, and 3 snack credits per night of your stay. The credits are assigned to the party, not to the individuals. Disney does not care who uses the credits, or when they use them. (Although they do expire if not used by your last day.)
The resturants will only charge you for meals ordered. Each time the 3 of you visit a TS resturant, since you will not order a meal for her, you will be charged only 2 TS credits. Therefore, you and DH can plan extra TS meals each over several days, use 2 credits each for signature meals, such as Cali Grill or Brown Derby.
You should still do the math to see if it makes sense for you. Don't pay for meals you don't want, or won't enjoy.
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Originally Posted by TheRustyScupper
1) I am sure it has to do with continuity.
2) If exceptions are made, where do they stop?
3) How bad does someone have to be for an exception?
4) It could get pretty mired.
Originally Posted by Puppy Mom
Wow! That is a bit harsh don't you think.
I think it is ridiculous to expect a family to pay for food for a child that is incapable of eating. That sounds VERY un-Disneylike to me.
Because theRustyScupper is with Disney he sees people abuse the system on a daily basis. I agree that this is the exception, and common sense says a doctor's note should do the trick.
But, like other situations, friend of doctors have them write fake notes all the time... and this causes the problem.
As for TheRustyScupper seeming unDisney like... well, he calls it like he sees it. He will not get into arguments, just states his opinion. This is a discussion board and that is what is it for.
Originally Posted by chick20679
I think the line would be, if you CAN' T (rather than won't) eat on the dining plan, then there should be an exception.
I would imagine Disney must have some sort of procedure already in place for this situation.
Let us know what you find out.
I hope so...
After reading the follow up post I really do not like the solution though. To leave her off the reservation would mean that she could not get the MYW tickets on the room. And, it could cause other problems down the line. What about EMH? If she is not on the reservation she will not have a key to get into the park.
Originally Posted by Puppy Mom
I am just guessing here, but doesn't the Americans with Diabilities ACt require that accomodations be made by businesses for disabled people?
Yes, it does. It does not state that your family can book a family dining plan that requires all members listed in the group to purchase the dining plan to exclude someone. The family can opt out of the dining plan. If the plan was required for all family members to enter the park then they would have to accomodate someone with a disability.
One thing to keep in mind here is that the dining plan is only worth the money if you are eating at very expensive restaurants. Now that we have to pay our own tips, it is not much of a value at all.
I agree with the other posters that said you should look at the cost of the plan to see if it will benefit your family.
Please let us know what happens. And I hope you have a wonderful trip.
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Originally Posted by minnie1956
I believe the ADA is meant for physical accommodations and accesibility.
The accessibility law states that they are required to provide the same experience. I don't know of anything in the law that covers charges for something. I would put their feet to the fire with asking them to feed her since you are paying for it.
I'm not impressed with the answer from Disability Services. Can you call them back and say.. I'm paying for her meals and this is what she requires to eat... If you like we can remove her from the meal plan or what are you going to do to feed my child... here is what she needs.
I wonder if the person that you spoke to had the skills to resolve this. Call back put them on the spot and if they don't know what to do then ask for a supervisor.
If you don't have her on the ressie that could cause all kinds of problems as Angel mentioned. IMO that's not a satisfactory answer...
IMO if you are paying for something then they need to provide a service for it... not just oh well.... I'm sure they don't want me on the phone...
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Originally Posted by TheRustyScupper
1) I am sure it has to do with continuity.
2) If exceptions are made, where do they stop?
3) How bad does someone have to be for an exception?
4) It could get pretty mired.
Wow! That is a bit harsh don't you think.
I think it is ridiculous to expect a family to pay for food for a child that is incapable of eating. That sounds VERY un-Disneylike to me.
I have to agree with Puppy Mom here. And I am not trying to start something, but when it comes to the defense of children who cannot defend themselves someone has to do it and it is obvious that the Rusty Scupper has not been blessed in life with a special little angel as Lori and myself have. As much as my son and other children like him have given up in life they deserve to be given an exception.
Anyway back to the subject I am really shocked about Disney's stance on this. If the individual CANNONT (not is making the choice not to eat, but physically cannot) eat the food being provided then why should we have to pay for it. We have been fortunate enough for this not to be an issue with my son since he is under 3, but he turns 3 in January and is fed with a G-tube it makes no sense that we should have to pay for food he is not going to be able to eat. They have been so accomadating with most everything else when it comes especially to children with special needs why be so insistent in this situation. Sorry for the rant, but what can I say it is frustrating.
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Disney did say we could leave her off the entire reservation, (except for the plane! and just check her in when we get there and buy her park tickets. but you are right, she would not be on the magic your way plan with us. I'm just going to avoid a big headache, and just put her on the whole plan with us. that will just mean we get one extra snack per day! will also help if we eat at a place that takes 2 sit-down allowances per person. I don't want the headache of a problem like, "we don't have her on your reservation............." we also have to ship down medical supplies, and we use an orlando company for back-up machines, and they have to be delivered in her name too. I'm just gonna avoid problems, and just add her! we did it last time, and had no trouble, just the extra expense is pretty dumb!!!oh well!! maybe down the road they'll have this stuff figured out!! thank you all for your imput!!
Lori. (we're bringing my mom-in-law too!) she is SO great! we will rent a wheelchair for her, as she as "new hips!"
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Lori,
AS the Mom of an autistic son, it helps when we learn when it is worth the trouble to fight the system.
It has taken me 9 years to learn that lesson.
Most times the world is very accomodating to us and at other times we must carve out ways to accomodate the world.
I guess this is one of those times.
You are right to look at it as a chance to try out some of the 2TS places, we never have and I look forward to the day that we can.
I think it is very perceptive at this point to take a positive attitude as not to detract from the magic of Disney, go with the flow and have some great gastronomical times as a "perk" to this situation.
My son has some intense SID issues when it comes to food. Other's may look at it like, well he COULD eat so and so if he wanted. Well , not really. His brain and neuroreflexes really don't let him. Believe us, we and he has tried.
So I did stress over some of the Kids menus on the DDP last trip.And lamented on why we were required to include him, it would have been so easier to find what he wanted OOP.
But, I guess the fairy dust was in place. We found things he would eat or the CM was very accomodating or we stopped by and got what he would eat and took it to the TS with us and all went well.
I should have saved all those sleepless nights, and stress and worrying about it and adopted a positive attitude before we went.
I hope that you do eat at some of the signature places and really enjoy it, some Magic from your daughter to Mom and Dad.
And tell us about them when you return.
Kim, Mom of Two Russian Angels
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Wow - I am surprised that there isn't a way to work this. It seems like a no-brainer to me that since she physically can't eat, that she should be exempt from the MYW rule.
That said, I agree with wdwfansince75 - I would use her meal credits and have some great meals - 2TS meals, etc that I don't usually do, dinner shows, having all three meals covered on certain days. We usually have to go OOP for some meals when we use the dining plan, so I would just look at it as a way of prepaying and not having to use spending money for meals. But I still would be frustrated, though.
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Originally Posted by wdwfansince75
In determining whether to buy the MYW plan, consider the following.....If it is just the three of you, your party would receive 3 TS credits, 3 CS credits, and 3 snack credits per night of your stay. The credits are assigned to the party, not to the individuals. Disney does not care who uses the credits, or when they use them. (Although they do expire if not used by your last day.)
The resturants will only charge you for meals ordered. Each time the 3 of you visit a TS resturant, since you will not order a meal for her, you will be charged only 2 TS credits. Therefore, you and DH can plan extra TS meals each over several days, use 2 credits each for signature meals, such as Cali Grill or Brown Derby.
Lori Anne, I hope this posters idea works for you.
Since you are including Rachel in the reservation, and are (therefore) forced to pay for the DDP for her, then you should definitely eat at some signature restaurants and you or your hubby (or MIL)can use her credits. Since they will be adult credits, any one of you can use them as you see fit. That seems like the best option at this point. (It will be alot of food, but the extra credits should lower your out-of-pocket for the other adults, since you'll have the extra credits that you could use towards breakfast and such).
I still think it's absolutely crazy that there isn't an exception for this already in existence, but at least if you have to pay for the DDP for Rachel, you'll be getting more of your money's worth?
Hope you have an amazing trip!
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My son has a g-tube, but I've always gone w/ MYW package
Hi!
My son also relies on a g-tube to receive his nutrition. He does enjoy dining out and having his own plate and "participating" in the meal. He especially enjoys buffets and choosing food to "try."
He's 8, so we get the child's dining plan for him. We usually end up using his meal and snack credits for breakfast because IMO that's the only child's meal that's edible. When we are eating at a buffet, he uses his credit for himself.
I know it's kind of a waste of money (not to mention food!) but I pay for the convenience factor.
Thanks to the GAC, the "stroller=wheelchair" sticker, ADRs, and the MYW package, all we have to do is show up and let the fun begin!
For me, that's priceless!
That said, I'd like to see WDW be more flexible w/ the dp for people who truly can't eat. IMO, it would be the right thing to do!
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