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07-05-2009, 11:14 PM
#121
The Orlando Sentinel has updated their article on the crash with some more biographical information on Austin. Let's just say that this makes the accident even more tragic, if that's possible.
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07-05-2009, 11:30 PM
#122
Originally Posted by jrpersinger
Thank you very much. We are relieved to know it was not our friend. We have spoken with him as well and he is very shaken up but ok. Thank god.
Prayers to the cm's friends and family. How awful to go thru this.
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07-05-2009, 11:54 PM
#123
Originally Posted by cmshelton1979
I was wondering if they will take the crashed trains off until they are fixed or if they shut down the monorail and fix these on the monorail??
They will take them to the roundhouse where they do maintenace on the trains. They have a disel engine that can tow them.
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07-05-2009, 11:58 PM
#124
This is horrible. The Driver's family, friends and fellow castmembers are in my prayers. So very sad.
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07-06-2009, 12:05 AM
#125
Originally Posted by CaptainSad
All trains have two controls. One in the forward and one in the stern. They don't back up the trains from the front...
The trains may not run normally from the opposite side, however the trains can be backed up.
If the train was switching tracks (which seems to be the front runner in my little black speculation book), it wouldn't be unreasonable -- and has been posted elsewhere is the norm-- for the pilot to back the train over the switch to go to a different track.
I've ridden in front while a MAPO test was performed, including doing a MAPO override. Our train was tested forward, and the train in the station attempted to back into ours.
It's a horrible tragedy, and a shame that it took the life of a young CM.
There seems to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere.
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07-06-2009, 01:49 AM
#126
What a horrible tragedy. I just heard about this and I am deeply saddened by the loss of such a young man. My heart goes out to his family and friends. I also have sympathy for the other driver and guests on the train. So sad.
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07-06-2009, 01:59 AM
#127
Although no one ever wants anything like this to happen, unfortunately it does happen.
Let us all remember that the parks are very safe with the exception of rare incidents that are bound to happen. You are safer in the park than you are in many of our cities.
Prayers to the victim and his family, and to those who had to observe this horrible accident.
DigitalDaredevil
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07-06-2009, 02:13 AM
#128
How tragic for this to happen to someone so young and apparently in doing his dream job. I am so sad for his family.
I had more to say but have reconsidered posting it.
Captain Disney, I appreciate your unique perspective. Thank you for sharing your private thoughts about this.
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07-06-2009, 07:18 AM
#129
just terrible,terrible,terrible...
i feel so sorry for the family of the driver.
it would have been a horrific thing to have witnessed...
not very magical
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07-06-2009, 07:22 AM
#130
Originally Posted by Red Randal
The Orlando Sentinel has updated their article on the crash with some more biographical information on Austin. Let's just say that this makes the accident even more tragic, if that's possible.
Oh my. It's absolutely heartbreaking. I feel terrible for his family.
Cindy
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07-06-2009, 07:26 AM
#131
Originally Posted by CaptainDisney
Many of you have mentioned memorable rides with the driver in the front of the monorail. It's also been mentioned that he/she often talked with pride about the system's safety record and it's advanced safety systems. I have always spoken proudly as well. Truly, we all believed something like this to be impossible. We are all in utter shock.
Thank you for your thoughts. I am so very sorry you lost your coworker. Hugs and prayers to all of you.
Cindy
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07-06-2009, 07:49 AM
#132
Originally Posted by CaptainSad
All trains have two controls. One in the forward and one in the stern. They don't back up the trains from the front...
Actually they do.
They can drive both in the front cab and rear, but in a track switching operation like I suspect caused this crash, the monorail would be driven in reverse from the front cab.
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07-06-2009, 08:23 AM
#133
SO tragic. M thoughts and prayers go out to Austin's family. friends, co-workers, etc. So young.
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07-06-2009, 08:45 AM
#134
Originally Posted by cmshelton1979
Will you ride the monorail or will you stay away from it now?
Absolutely - when Disney re-opens the monorail and declares it safe - that will be good enough for me. There are rides at Disney that people have died on and I still get on those.
CaptianDisney Thanks for your insightful post. My thoughts and prayers go out to not only the victim's immediate family, but his extended Disney family as well.
Last edited by irish1967; 07-06-2009 at 08:46 AM.
Reason: spelling error
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07-06-2009, 08:47 AM
#135
One thing that is totaly apparent is Disney's reliance on the monorail (and their inability to accomodate without it).
Having it down for a couple days (possibly more) is really putting a dent on transportation. The Grand is probably bearing the brunt of it since the only other transport is small boat, and there are not enough boats to accomodate everyone (or staff to man them, I'm not sure).
Currently, there are a ton of busses, some Disney, some not, pretty much all over the TTC area. They are trying to shuttle monorail resort guests with busses as well, but the backups are just insane. The only thing going for them right now is how insensitive it would be to complain, but it's pretty apparent that they are not equipped to handle this type of disaster.
I'm not sure how many monorails DIsney needs to run to keep things going smoothly, but having two out of the mix is probably going to have long lasting impacts on property. Will they replace them, repair them, or upgrade all? We'll have to wait and see...
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07-06-2009, 09:06 AM
#136
Originally Posted by John
Actually they do.
They can drive both in the front cab and rear, but in a track switching operation like I suspect caused this crash, the monorail would be driven in reverse from the front cab.
Thanks for the info John. It's nice to have Cast Members in the know...
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07-06-2009, 09:08 AM
#137
Will you ride the monorail or will you stay away from it now?
I certainly intend to keep riding the monorail. While this was a sad, tragic event, one death in 38 years is a much better track record than say driving a car, riding a bus, or more recently flying in a plane. Life is full of risks and you can't stop living because of scary events. I'm sure Disney will thoroughly investigate and take every measure to fix the problem. Once they are back up and running I will be happily waiting in line to get back on. Pixie dust and prayers to this CM and his family/friends.
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07-06-2009, 09:44 AM
#138
Has anyone considered that this could be the end of the Monorail system? I heard that they have been looking at alternatives for years. What are the chances that it will not reopen?
Anthony
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07-06-2009, 10:04 AM
#139
Originally Posted by DizneyRox
One thing that is totaly apparent is Disney's reliance on the monorail (and their inability to accomodate without it).
Having it down for a couple days (possibly more) is really putting a dent on transportation. The Grand is probably bearing the brunt of it since the only other transport is small boat, and there are not enough boats to accomodate everyone (or staff to man them, I'm not sure).
I guess that the never-built bridge over the canal in-between the MK and GF would have come in handy in this situation. That way, people could walk to both the GF and the Poly from the MK, so there would be another way to ease the congestion on the boats.
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07-06-2009, 10:19 AM
#140
Originally Posted by Anthony
Has anyone considered that this could be the end of the Monorail system? I heard that they have been looking at alternatives for years. What are the chances that it will not reopen?
Why would this be the end of the monorail? One accident in 38 years? You are safer on the monorail than on an airplane flying into MCO or a car driving there. My completely uninformed opinion is that it will reopen soon.
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