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    Except no other park (that I'm aware of) makes guests go through a pat down before getting on a ride. As many have mentioned in this thread Universal has rides that are similar in nature to six flags, Busch Gardens, or Cedar Fair. In fact, those parks have rides that are far more intense. Cedar point has a ride that launches 0-120 mph in seconds then shoots you up a 420 foot hill and they like me keep my phone or keys or whatever else I have in my pocket that latches shut.

    It's overkill and ridiculous. I am all for safety. But they have taken it to the ultimate extreme. I'm seeing people being wanded like going through airport security! And I'm sure this is a stressful situation for everybody. Guests aren't happy. Teammates aren't happy. And I'm sure tempers flare often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSpirit02 View Post
    Out of curiosity - Why don't they just do metal detectors going into the parks instead of just particular rides?
    What will metal detectors at the entrance do for the idiots who throw things while on rides? Nothing... So maybe they stop knives or guns from entering the park... But it doesn't stop someone thinking it is funny to toss loose change at people while flipping upside down on Dragon Challenge... Or stop that idiot who needs a selfie of them on Hulk, and thei iPhone flies out of their hands hitting guests in the head, or loose items flying out of pockets and nearly hitting children... By doing what they are doing at the ride entrance, they are preventing mouth breathers from endangering other guests on the attractions...


    Quote Originally Posted by dnickels View Post
    And it's definitely needed at Universal, with the injuries they've had from people who lied and said they didn't have anything in their pockets that later went flying and injured guests. I'm sure every one of those people thought "Oh it can never fly out of my pocket" and sure enough, it did. The only safe and fair thing to do in that situation is to make everyone empty everything and be extra suspicious if it looks like someone has something in their pocket.
    Exactly... People need to be protected from themselves... And Universal needs to protect themselves from morons... Just like Disney shutting down the Tigger bouncing area by the Pooh queue... It is all about safety... Oh and the fact we live in a society where the first thought in someone's mind is SUE SUE SUE not OH IS MY LITTLE ONE ALRIGHT???

    Quote Originally Posted by MNNHFLTX View Post
    And in some cases, people are not being allowed to bring on even that.

    It would be nice if Universal would provide more of an explanation as to why these new safety measures are being tested/implemented on rides. I think that would go a long way in ensuring rider cooperation.The more I read about this the more convinced I am that it's focused on restricting cell phone use (and selfie sticks) on rides.
    Disney never provided a reason why they shut the Tigger bounce area down... But we know why... Safety and legal's fear of a little one playing too rough, getting hurt, and parents worrying about a payday from Disney, not their little one's broken arm, so much for today's society... We also know why Universal has started using metal detectors, and maybe pat downs, in the queue for certain rides... I wouldn't ever expect them to say why they are doing it... They just are... No one forces anyone to queue up for any ride... But if you do, follow procedure...


    Quote Originally Posted by Tink1 View Post
    my thought is:

    they cannot trust that anything you have in your pockets will not be removed during the ride. Example: You go through with cell phone zipped in pocket. Ride starts, you go up the hill, take phone out to selfie the ride. Phone can then fly out of your hands.

    (Look at the amount of people who cannot follow "no flash photography".)

    So since people cannot be trusted to follow simple rules, stricter ones had to be put in place and enforced. Metal Detectors at the ride are part of the enforcement.

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    Exactly... People need to be protected from themselves... Universal needs to protect themselves as well... People today are animals, ingrates, and selfish... They don't feel they need to follow rules, policies, or procedures... The entitlement attitude is crazy... People would simply lie... And the next time a guest is blinded by loose change being tossed from one of those animals on the coaster, Universal will surely have multimillion dollar lawsuits to fight...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldDuck1117 View Post
    It's overkill and ridiculous. I am all for safety. But they have taken it to the ultimate extreme. I'm seeing people being wanded like going through airport security! And I'm sure this is a stressful situation for everybody. Guests aren't happy. Teammates aren't happy. And I'm sure tempers flare often.
    Is it over kill? Maybe... Not many people, even the most ardent Universal defender agrees with it... But it is an unfortunate necessity... Until legal and park management can find a better solution... Yes it adds stress to the work day for the team members... it makes it majorly annoying for guests to have to go through this... Not going to disagree... Blame the brainless, oxygen deprived guests who create situations where now people who are decent get punished... It isn't Universal's fault guests are now subjected to metal detectors... Blame the idiots whose actions led to it...
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    We are planning a day trip from WDW in May. I just want to make sure I have this correct- nothing in pockets- even zipped? what are their rules on glasses ( I have Rx sunglasses and literally can't see without them) is a lasso sufficient?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tundramom View Post
    We are planning a day trip from WDW in May. I just want to make sure I have this correct- nothing in pockets- even zipped? what are their rules on glasses ( I have Rx sunglasses and literally can't see without them) is a lasso sufficient?
    You cannot wear glasses on the rides like Hulk, Rip Ride Rockit, or Dueling Dragons. I really don't know how that works with people who HAVE to wear them to see? Regardless, ALL sunglasses must be removed but last time I went (last October) you were allowed to hold them in your hand. My friend accidentally forgot to leave hers in the locker and boarded dueling dragons with them. She held them in her hand. Probably won't be allowed these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tundramom View Post
    We are planning a day trip from WDW in May. I just want to make sure I have this correct- nothing in pockets- even zipped? what are their rules on glasses ( I have Rx sunglasses and literally can't see without them) is a lasso sufficient?
    I will be there this week. Will report back with first hand information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tink1 View Post
    my thought is:

    they cannot trust that anything you have in your pockets will not be removed during the ride. Example: You go through with cell phone zipped in pocket. Ride starts, you go up the hill, take phone out to selfie the ride. Phone can then fly out of your hands.

    (Look at the amount of people who cannot follow "no flash photography".)

    So since people cannot be trusted to follow simple rules, stricter ones had to be put in place and enforced. Metal Detectors at the ride are part of the enforcement.

    Nanc
    I agree and I have actually been saying for several years now that I wish WDW would ban cell phones and cameras from the rides. It is extremely annoying to get on a ride, in particular a dark ride, and some rude person take pictures or run their video with the light on through the ride. I wonder how many pictures/selfies there are out there with me in the background looking mad at the world.

    It would suit me just fine if WDW put metal detectors at the entrance to every single ride and made you remove everything from your pockets. Is it a bit of a hassle, yes, but it would improve the ride/attraction experience by not having flashes and video lights going throughout the rides and shows.

    WDW has sort of painted itself into a corner on this issue though by implementing the use of their App on smartphones. How do you curtail their use on rides by not allowing them but then at the same time try to encourage their use everywhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut View Post
    I agree and I have actually been saying for several years now that I wish WDW would ban cell phones and cameras from the rides. It is extremely annoying to get on a ride, in particular a dark ride, and some rude person take pictures or run their video with the light on through the ride. I wonder how many pictures/selfies there are out there with me in the background looking mad at the world.

    It would suit me just fine if WDW put metal detectors at the entrance to every single ride and made you remove everything from your pockets. Is it a bit of a hassle, yes, but it would improve the ride/attraction experience by not having flashes and video lights going throughout the rides and shows.

    WDW has sort of painted itself into a corner on this issue though by implementing the use of their App on smartphones. How do you curtail their use on rides by not allowing them but then at the same time try to encourage their use everywhere else?
    I agree with everything you said. I especially agree that WDW has painted themselves into a corner. It will be hard to say use our app, but lock your phone away before you get in line.

    On a side note, last year was the first time in over 200 days on-site that we have ever used our cellphones at the parks (in order to use the app). It honestly bugged me that we were so often looking down at our screens instead of being engaged with each other and the parks around us. We went down to a one phone family at the parks very quickly, because we wanted to use the app. the app itself was so very convenient.
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    They can't force people who wear glasses to take them off-talk about safety issues! Most amusement parks require a strap to be worn on eyeglasses for the really intense rides. They hook to the end of each ear rest and strap against the back of your head abs can be bought at any drug store or target like store

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    Despite all of the wonderful things Universal has done with their parks over the years, (and this is simply my opinion) they are still little better than a regional theme park which gets about a day and a half of my attention on our trips.

    Because of my perception of the park, the employees have always lived up to my expectations: sometimes happy, sometimes fun, and sometimes just downright rude. I've witnessed rudeness, even been the target of it, but it has never been of a level that would cause me to spend my bucks elsewhere. (unlike Busch Gardens)

    Of course, if one had ever gone so far as to accuse me of lying and tried to place their grubby little paws on my person, well, I would likely have a portrait hanging on the wall of "Don't let these knot-heads in the parks".

    The lockers, and the stowing of personal belongings has never really bothered me either. Their rides can be intense, and it is for my safety. It can be a little inconvenient, and sometimes frustrating when the lockers don't function properly, but I get over it real quick. Again, it is all for my safety.

    Maybe I will need to see it for myself next month, but this latest news has me questioning whether or not I want to.

    I mean, it's one thing to post a big red and yellow sign and tell me that all contents of my pockets must be stowed (again, inconvenient, but I'll get over it). Another sign telling me eyewear must also be stowed, though I have to wonder how much I would enjoy spiderman if I can't see it... But to have me go through a check point, because as some here would insist, I am probably lying to you?

    No, no. It's the "other" people who are lying...

    I thoroughly enjoy our visits to Universal, almost as much as our trips to Disney. But, somewhere, there is a better way to address this issue. I am hoping they find it. Otherwise, my trips will get a few hundred bucks cheaper.
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    In the past I have witnessed many people in line for Forbidden Journey NOT following the rules and trying to bring things on the ride. Staff must then tell them that they have to get out of line and find a locker. This does not go over well with a lot of guests, especially after being in line for 30 mins. Staff may appear to be "yelling" and "too forceful" but they are just trying to get their point across to people trying to ignore the rule and sneak things on the attraction.

    Now I have not been to Universal since last April and have not seen the new rules or the metal detectors. Which rides do the new rules apply to? Am I understanding this correctly....you can not have anything in your pockets at all on this attractions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRocker View Post
    Maybe I will need to see it for myself next month, but this latest news has me questioning whether or not I want to.

    I mean, it's one thing to post a big red and yellow sign and tell me that all contents of my pockets must be stowed (again, inconvenient, but I'll get over it). Another sign telling me eyewear must also be stowed, though I have to wonder how much I would enjoy spiderman if I can't see it... But to have me go through a check point, because as some here would insist, I am probably lying to you?

    No, no. It's the "other" people who are lying...

    I thoroughly enjoy our visits to Universal, almost as much as our trips to Disney. But, somewhere, there is a better way to address this issue. I am hoping they find it. Otherwise, my trips will get a few hundred bucks cheaper.

    I think I fall into this camp. I was considering adding Universal Annual passes this years but for me having fun and going through a metal detector just don't feel like they go together.

    And yes the same thing could be said about FP+, planning , crowds etc but for some reason this just bugs me more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentC View Post
    I think I fall into this camp. I was considering adding Universal Annual passes this years but for me having fun and going through a metal detector just don't feel like they go together.

    And yes the same thing could be said about FP+, planning , crowds etc but for some reason this just bugs me more.

    I am the opposite. Planning the Disney vacation has gotten so taxing, it has sucked the fun out of the time leading up to vacation. I had to stay up 6 nights in a row past midnight to apply for fast passes. Then couldn't get them for some attractions and other attractions had times spread out so far apart that we weren't going to be in the parks that long. Then lines for attractions that used to be a 10 to 15 minute wait were over 60 to 120 minutes.

    I don't think going through the metal detectors will bother me, but I guess I won't know until I do it.

    IMO the way Disney checks bag is just silly and a waste of time. Half the time they don't even look in my camera bag.....that goes for Universal too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentC View Post
    I think I fall into this camp. I was considering adding Universal Annual passes this years but for me having fun and going through a metal detector just don't feel like they go together.

    And yes the same thing could be said about FP+, planning , crowds etc but for some reason this just bugs me more.
    I understand what you're saying, Cindy. Metal detectors are kind of a killjoy, whether they're necessary or not.

    One way to look at it in deciding about the UO passes is that they have only using metal detectors on the three roller coasters--Hulk, Rip Ride Rocket and Dragon Challenge. If the kids aren't into those intense type of rides yet, but would enjoy the other attractions, it still might be worth it.
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    At the very least they could theme the metal detectors. They didn't even do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJGIRL View Post
    I am the opposite. Planning the Disney vacation has gotten so taxing, it has sucked the fun out of the time leading up to vacation. I had to stay up 6 nights in a row past midnight to apply for fast passes. Then couldn't get them for some attractions and other attractions had times spread out so far apart that we weren't going to be in the parks that long. Then lines for attractions that used to be a 10 to 15 minute wait were over 60 to 120 minutes.

    I don't think going through the metal detectors will bother me, but I guess I won't know until I do it.

    IMO the way Disney checks bag is just silly and a waste of time. Half the time they don't even look in my camera bag.....that goes for Universal too.
    I totally get where you are coming from Rita but I don't do anything of the things you mentioned for planning at Disney World so they don't bug me.

    I almost always book my FP at 30 days or less. I've been able to get most of what I want. we went to AK on Good Friday and I had to book same day and it was fine. If I don't get them, it doesn't bother me but I think that is probably the local factor. We go enough that there is always another time. If I went once every couple of years and had to do certain things, it probably would bother me.

    Lines and crowds are another story but there is nothing to really do about. The people aren't going away so you live with or you don't do.


    Quote Originally Posted by MNNHFLTX View Post
    I understand what you're saying, Cindy. Metal detectors are kind of a killjoy, whether they're necessary or not.

    One way to look at it in deciding about the UO passes is that they have only using metal detectors on the three roller coasters--Hulk, Rip Ride Rocket and Dragon Challenge. If the kids aren't into those intense type of rides yet, but would enjoy the other attractions, it still might be worth it.
    I was mainly considering it for me, Beth. The kids won't ride enough. I might get them Legoland passes since they are super cheap.

    I think my thing is metal detectors remind me of airports, courthouses etc. Probably not rational but I can't shake the feeling. I'll be going in May so we'll see if I feel differently after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrerGnat View Post
    At the very least they could theme the metal detectors. They didn't even do that.
    This is a brilliant idea Why not scan everyone looking for Terminators or Decepticons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentC View Post
    I totally get where you are coming from Rita but I don't do anything of the things you mentioned for planning at Disney World so they don't bug me.

    I almost always book my FP at 30 days or less. I've been able to get most of what I want. we went to AK on Good Friday and I had to book same day and it was fine. If I don't get them, it doesn't bother me but I think that is probably the local factor. We go enough that there is always another time. If I went once every couple of years and had to do certain things, it probably would bother me.

    We had been going on a yearly (before I started to get fed up) basis for a while so I wasn't overly concerned about doing everything every trip. My problem is the value. To me spending hundreds of dollars for each person and only getting to do four or five attractions at park is the problem. I have no problems with the MK because they have so many attractions. It is a problem at the other three parks because they have so many less. I can see where it wouldn't be a problem for a local with an annual pass because the value is still there.

    In general I do not have consumer loyalty. I generally shop and spend my money where I feel I am going to get the most for it, so that is why I don't have a problem cutting back our Disney vacations for Universal. I would feel the same way if Universal was making the same changes that Disney has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJGIRL View Post
    To me spending hundreds of dollars for each person and only getting to do four or five attractions at park is the problem. I have no problems with the MK because they have so many attractions. It is a problem at the other three parks because they have so many less. I can see where it wouldn't be a problem for a local with an annual pass because the value is still there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrerGnat View Post
    At the very least they could theme the metal detectors. They didn't even do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by conan617 View Post
    This is a brilliant idea Why not scan everyone looking for Terminators or Decepticons?
    That is a fun idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrerGnat View Post
    You cannot wear glasses on the rides like Hulk, Rip Ride Rockit, or Dueling Dragons. I really don't know how that works with people who HAVE to wear them to see? Regardless, ALL sunglasses must be removed but last time I went (last October) you were allowed to hold them in your hand. My friend accidentally forgot to leave hers in the locker and boarded dueling dragons with them. She held them in her hand. Probably won't be allowed these days.
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