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    Loads of articles about a man making a method lab comment to Disney security gets a lifetime ban from Disney properties. Reports are loaded with Dopey, Goofy, Grumpy, comments trying to make light of the comment, but really, who threatens to build a method lab in their room in jest!

    I say, keep the ban, not something to kid about...

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    Oy. Apparently common sense is a rare thing these days. What an idiot.
    I saw the headline but didn't read everything. Was his with his family? I sure hope not. I can't imagine the disappointment in children if there were any.
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    Moron. Plain and simple. In the video of the news story, he says "Maybe meth lab was the wrong thing to say...maybe I should have said I could build an atomic bomb in my room." WHAT???? Like a bomb is less threatening? And yes, his wife and kids were with him. They were all forced to go home. His wife and kids are not banned, though, just him. He deserves it.
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    Total overreaction on Disney's part. They went and swept the room after the comment, which was clearly in jest, and found everything was clear. At that point you give him a stern talking to about how the company takes any matter like that seriously and tell him to knock it off. But a lifetime ban for all properties around the world? That's a bit much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldDuck1117 View Post
    Total overreaction on Disney's part. They went and swept the room after the comment, which was clearly in jest, and found everything was clear. At that point you give him a stern talking to about how the company takes any matter like that seriously and tell him to knock it off. But a lifetime ban for all properties around the world? That's a bit much.
    Agree with this. I wonder how many real drug dealers are staying on Disney property at any one time?
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    Oh I'm sure there are all kinds on Disney property. That doesn't mean, in light of stricter policies [whether we agree or not], that he didn't take it too far. There are just certain things you do not joke about IN a security line. Is it overkill when someone makes a bomb joke on an airplane and are escorted off? No way. As much as people have the right to talk/say whatever they want, they should still exercise common sense and know what to/what not to say or joke about.
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    That is ridiculous. And he was right. Room service at any of the hotels is too slow. That should be criminal. What they charge for that bad pizza, should also be illegal. With all the other perverse behavior they allow, this is where they draw the line? Stupid.

    Now building a bomb, that would get him invited to the capital evidently.

    Apparently they don't show Breaking Bad on tv there.
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    He was ONLY banned from the Florida Disney Parks, not any of the others.

    The story is that he was IN his room, called the "front desk" wanting to add an extra night to his stay. It was late at night. He was put on hold for 15 min, apparently making asinine comments the whole time because he didn't think the operator could hear him. He hung up and called back. Put on hold for another 5 min. When he got a CM on the line, he was told there were no rooms available at his resort for the next night. He got angry, then started complaining about how long he was put on hold, and at that point, he made his stupid comment. The CM called security on him because she heard "I could have finished building the meth lab in my room in the time I spent on hold."

    I don't think the reaction by Disney was unreasonable at all. The guy was angry and then made a dumb comment to a phone CM. His bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texas211 View Post
    That is ridiculous. And he was right. Room service at any of the hotels is too slow. That should be criminal. What they charge for that bad pizza, should also be illegal. With all the other perverse behavior they allow, this is where they draw the line? Stupid.

    Now building a bomb, that would get him invited to the capital evidently.

    Apparently they don't show Breaking Bad on tv there.
    Good thing the kid who received the invite built only a clock and not a bomb then...

    Not an over reaction on WDW's part... This idiot made a stupid comment and is paying the price for his stupidity... And rightly so... Want to be a moron, suffer the consequences of your brainless actions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by texas211 View Post
    That is ridiculous. And he was right. Room service at any of the hotels is too slow. That should be criminal. What they charge for that bad pizza, should also be illegal. With all the other perverse behavior they allow, this is where they draw the line? Stupid....
    Who said anything about room service and/or pizza ? He was trying to get an extra night added to his reservation.

    We've only heard this guy's version of what was said, how long he was on hold, etc. Those calls are recorded by Disney and would also indicate how long he was on hold. It would be interesting to hear those details, but Disney does not normally release such info.
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    I'd appreciate more details from Disney and this guy honestly.
    I feel super safe at Disney, but I would hate to hear that a family who adores Disney gets banned for life for something like this. In the same token, I would think they all would understand the repercussions of saying a comment like that at Disney World.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Who said anything about room service and/or pizza ? He was trying to get an extra night added to his reservation.

    We've only heard this guy's version of what was said, how long he was on hold, etc. Those calls are recorded by Disney and would also indicate how long he was on hold. It would be interesting to hear those details, but Disney does not normally release such info.

    I read that somewhere else.

    Still, was the guy upset sure. But, I think WDW went crazy on the punishment. But on the other hand, if that was their reaction to me, I wouldn't want to come back anyways. There is always Universal and SeaWorld.
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    No sympathy from me at all. Of all the things he could have said to indicate that he waited a ridiculously long time, that's what he chooses? I also suspect there's more to the story than he's telling. If WDW bounced this guy for life, I'm betting they had a very good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVBs View Post
    No sympathy from me at all. Of all the things he could have said to indicate that he waited a ridiculously long time, that's what he chooses? I also suspect there's more to the story than he's telling. If WDW bounced this guy for life, I'm betting they had a very good reason.
    I agree. I can't imagine that they would ban him from the Florida parks for that statement alone.
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    I am in the camp that think WDW overreacted.

    Just guessing but it was late at night and they were near the end of their trip so they had been at it wide open for several days without much rest. The kids were loving it so they decided, hey let's add one more day and revisit the kids favorite things (or something like that.......again just speculation but this is how it has gone for me.) He calls to try to add one night, gets put on hold and then gets a little bit of the run around. At that point, he is irritated and makes a wise crack. The wise crack probably wasn't the "wisest" he could have chosen but still that is all it turned out to be. Disney could have simply sent security to check his room, found it clean and the embarrassment and having to deal with his wife the next couple of days would have been more than adequate punishment. lol

    I have been there. I have tried to add a night and went through basically the same thing and I was pretty irritated before I gave up. I ended up telling them to forget it and just went offsite. I have made smart aleck comments after being on hold several times in the past with various companies but building a meth lab wouldn't have been my choice for a remark i don't think. Who knows, maybe an episode of Breaking Bad was on tv and that was what he was watching while on hold.....in that scenario it makes a little more sense.

    Anyway, if the guy feels the urge, he will get a lawyer and they will sue for the inconveniences and mental anguish caused by WDW's overreaction. They will settle and he will get reimbursed for his entire trip and probably get a free top of the line future vacation of his choice out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DizneyRox View Post
    Loads of articles about a man making a method lab comment to Disney security gets a lifetime ban from Disney properties. Reports are loaded with Dopey, Goofy, Grumpy, comments trying to make light of the comment, but really, who threatens to build a method lab in their room in jest!

    I say, keep the ban, not something to kid about...
    "Method" lab? Methamphetamine, or meth, not method.

    You are correct, however, with your statement about the threat to build a meth lab in his room -- Who would do such a thing, and better yet, WHY?????

    I don't know if the lifetime ban was overboard or not, but the man, and whoever was with him, should have been removed from the property for possible safety violations, and a report filed with local authorities.
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    When I first read this, I kind of thought Disney was blowing things out of proportion myself. However, on one of the other Disney boards, someone posted links to several recent occasions in which explosions or extremely dangerous situations arose from people making or attempting to make Meth in motel rooms. The poster went on to say that this kind of statement is something which the hotel/motel industry takes extremely seriously - similar to the talk of a bomb on an airplane.

    Another poster said that if it was a true search by the police, as stated in the article, then it would have had to involve a warrant, in which probable cause would have had to be established. So, I think there is probably a little more to the story. Note that I am not a layer and am certainly not familiar with Florida law.

    Believe me, I am not a mindless 'Disney can do no wrong' person, but perhaps they handled this correctly. I believe the guy can appeal the lifetime ban to Disney and that Disney has not considered the appeal yet. If it was just a stupid remark, then the ban can certainly be lifted.

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    Yes, there have been quite a few cases in Florida, including several in Kissimmee, where people have built meth labs in hotel rooms, a few of them resulting in explosions and all of them requiring complete evacuation of entire buildings. A search warrant would not be required if the police asked for and received permission from the occupant of the room.

    As far as the "lifetime ban" goes, the trespass notices issued by police in Florida does not specify a specific length of time, hence making it "lifetime". The person affected can appeal to the courts to have the trespass notice quashed, since the notice is issued by the police, not Disney.

    Again, thus far we only have this guy's version of what happened, which is very likely slanted to his own self-interest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldDuck1117 View Post
    Total overreaction on Disney's part. They went and swept the room after the comment, which was clearly in jest, and found everything was clear. At that point you give him a stern talking to about how the company takes any matter like that seriously and tell him to knock it off. But a lifetime ban for all properties around the world? That's a bit much.
    Indeed. This is like getting a tsunami when a rock falls into a lake. The reaction goes beyond what is required, but they can do it if they want to. Perhaps they imagine this sort of theatrical reaction will dissuade others from making an absurd comment like that, but it is surely so rare as to have little or no measurable impact whatsoever. EDIT to add... A process that allows the man to appeal the order, and explain/apologize/make restitution, is probably sufficient in this case. I now understand better that some of this was dictated by the police and Disney probably did exercise due caution when passing on the information.

    A search warrant is not required if a threat to life reasonably exists. If they believe there is a meth lab in a room, and it is known that they have caused fires/explosions, they are legally able to enter the room. It is an exception to the 4th amendment, as long as their beliefs later pass judicial scrutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVBs View Post
    No sympathy from me at all. Of all the things he could have said to indicate that he waited a ridiculously long time, that's what he chooses? I also suspect there's more to the story than he's telling. If WDW bounced this guy for life, I'm betting they had a very good reason.
    I agree with you completely. And as this was done on his last night, heaven only knows what other nonsense he'd been up to his whole trip.
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