Improvements vs Cutbacks: Commentary & Discussion of Current Disney Management

[Ian]

She does have a point about the GM discussion, though. Way and I'm just as guilty as everyone else.

Let's leave that for another day.

btw, Tekneek, all good points. Didn't want to ignore what you said. I'm opposed to the governmental bailout of corporations, period.

As far as I'm concerned, any governmental meddling in the free markets is only a recipe for disaster. If our politicians had any business accumen, they'd be in the business world not politics.

[Nascfan]

The title of this thread is Improvements vs. Cutbacks: Commetary and Discussion of Current Disney Management. It was opened by a moderator. And this thread has followed that title exact. Has nothing to do with Wishes. Even though the first few posts deal with a possible Wishes cutback, we are completely on topic.

Nope, sorry Goth, but the posts about GM and its former CEO have absolutely nothing to do with Disney anything. Even though Lisa used Wishes as an example, she's 100% correct. This has gotten way off topic in the last page.

[GothMickey]

Nope, sorry Goth, but the posts about GM and its former CEO have absolutely nothing to do with Disney anything. Even though Lisa used Wishes as an example, she's 100% correct. This has gotten way off topic in the last page.

Eh, you are right. The GM convo does go off topic. Ok, I take it back, she has a point.

[lockedoutlogic]

Back to the original:

they are cutting back on all viable fronts.....
they are not reinvesting....only small necessary rehabs and asthetics (barely)...
The third party development does not count as Disney "imagineering" anything new...in the traditonal sense....

so here we are....

(Now i just sit and wait for the powerbrokers to come get me as being too "negative" on this one)

[BMan62]

Back to the original:

they are cutting back on all viable fronts.....
they are not reinvesting....only small necessary rehabs and asthetics (barely)...
The third party development does not count as Disney "imagineering" anything new...in the traditonal sense....

so here we are....

(Now i just sit and wait for the powerbrokers to come get me as being too "negative" on this one)

Agreed on all points. Parks are getting just enough done to allow them to say they are spending money on that front.

Have to add one thing -- they ARE spending money -- ON DVC. BLT & THV are both vacuuming up some pretty serious cash. AKV is still under construction, so more cash goes there as well.

Non-timeshare properties are showing lack-of-love lately, even more so that the parks. IMHO

[Ian]

I also wonder how much the redo of DCA is factoring in to things. That's a billion-plus dollar project in and of itself.

[BMan62]

I sit corrected. My little mind can't wrap itself around anything outside of WDW in the Disney budget.

So, after the multi-billion $$$$ revamp of DCA, will some of the love come back to WDW?

[GrumpyFan]

So, after the multi-billion $$$$ revamp of DCA, will some of the love come back to WDW?

Perhaps, but if it takes that long (5 years?) WDW could be seriously hurting.
I would suggest that it's going to take 2-3 quarters of declining guests and profits at WDW before they get something going. And, with Universal and Busch (for now), opening brand new high thrill rides this summer/fall, it might just make enough impact that WDW management will pay attention.

[disneygeek18]

Wasn't the money for the DCA expansion already set aside? Also, isn't there separate funding for DL and WDW? I mean it obviously makes things cheaper when they build for both of them, but I was under the impression they each pay half of the cost?

[Disney_Guy]

As far as I'm concerned, any governmental meddling in the free markets is only a recipe for disaster. If our politicians had any business accumen, they'd be in the business world not politics.

Ian, as someone who works in our government I think you should stop and think before you open your loud mouth about politicians.

We are trying to help out those who got laid off and may be laid off. Just because you run a disney website all day doesn't mean others are hurting for jobs. We need to be involved in everything including free markets.

Disney_Guy

[John]

Ladies and Gents - this has gotten to the point where it's not very INTERCOT like. Maybe other boards go on and on like this but it's not what we're all about.

Pack your bags - thread is closed.

[Ed]

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