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    Sorry, I didn't know that this had been brought up before. It kind of makes me rethink our strategy of waiting for the crowds to thin before leaving the park.
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    Huh... Maybe we got really lucky, but we didn't have this problem in June! Maybe we made it out before the hour, but I could have sworn it was well after... But there were still huge lines when we got there! Maybe they kept them open because there were so many people? Sorry about your luck! :/
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    We do not stay at the resorts on the monorails. We prefer POP. But, if a customer is spending the kind of money to stay at the MK resorts, then I find removing one of the biggest perks an issue.

    Now, since we always drive to where we are going, it is a huge inconvenience to everyone who drives to MK, must take one of only two forms of transportation to the MK from the TTC. Disney effectively eliminated half of their transportation to TTC. Who does something that utterly stupid?

    <Puts on pessimist mouse ears>

    Maintenance issues after 41 years? With multiple series of monorails?

    A monorail carries roughly 300 people. The ferry over 500. The ferry carries more, but is slower. Busy time, 2 ferries running, 2 monorails maybe 3. Ferry takes about 15 to 20 minutes to load, unload and transit the lake. Monorail I will estimate at 10 minutes per monorail.

    So roughly, roughly mind you with the number above you get 3000 people per hour on 2 ferries. And with 3 monorails 4500 per hour. Other sources googled claim up to 7000 per hour for the monorail.

    Bottom line, the monorail is faster and moves more people than a ferry. Now if my numbers on capacity are wrong, let me know and I will correct my figures.

    Why would you get rid of a system like that? The answer money. Pure and simple. It saves money for Disney at the cost of making guests (customers) wait longer and longer for transport to the TTC or their hotels.

    I will grant the beam ways may need repair, but why has nobody seen them repairing or doing work? Because it is not being done. Because it is not as much of a maintenance issue as they would have everyone believe.
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    Victor, one problem with your computations, at busy times they run 3 ferries. One each in the docks and one in transit.

    Then one also has to include the number moved on the resort launches, and those walking to CR. After the first hour how many people remain the be moved. That last figure would tell you how much capacity is needed.

    Now, yes, the cut back is about money. On the operational cost side the major stockholders, those with tens of thousands to millions of shares are reportedly very unhappy with the daily operational costs and want them cut. And folks at that level can force this. Since the only real way to reduce those is to cut paid staff hours (70% or more of operational costs are staff costs in any business) and shutting the monorail 1hr early is one way to do that.
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    You are correct, I did not count a third ferry. Which would add approx 1500 people to the count per hour.

    All thing being equal, the monorail really does do a lot more than it used to in the 70's and 80's. Anyone remember all seats in the monorails? I do. About 6 per seat and about 8 rows. So the newer models carry way more people. Unless it is loaded with strollers.

    I did not count the launches as they do not really have a large capacity, and their speed of loading and travel are terrible.

    Unfortunately the major stock holders probably get VIP treatment and do not use the public Disney transportation, otherwise they would understand and get just as frustrated. Or they simply never go to WDW to begin with.

    I am far from syaing I will never go again, but with rate hikes at the parks and cost of transportation, closer amusement parks and other vacation spots are getting our money now.
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