MNSSHP - Just got off phone with Disney

[sacandjac]

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Hi,
Just got back from WDW. We were at the MNSSHP on the 14th and we were allowed entry at 4pm. We checked with the concierge desk at POR and also guest relations at MK - both stated 4pm entry.

Had a great time . Hope many of my fellow intercot members will be going to the party. It was a lot of fun.

Kari
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Someone else posted this under another thread. Guess we will not know for sure until we go ourselves, which we are in three days! WOO!HOO!!

[JoDisney]

Thank you for telling your experience. Glad it worked out.

[r4kids]

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Hi,
Just got back from WDW. We were at the MNSSHP on the 14th and we were allowed entry at 4pm. We checked with the concierge desk at POR and also guest relations at MK - both stated 4pm entry.

Had a great time . Hope many of my fellow intercot members will be going to the party. It was a lot of fun.

Kari
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Someone else posted this under another thread. Guess we will not know for sure until we go ourselves, which we are in three days! WOO!HOO!!

Thank you so much!!!

[SoaringEpcot]

I bought tickets yesterday and was told by concierge we could get in at 4pm.

We went to the park around 3:45 and CMs were sending all party guest to the right entry. At 4pm they opened the gates and began letting guest in, and giving out wrist bands.

The park was busy but most rides were walk on even at that time.

We did see quite a few people after 7pm that did not have on wrist bands. The only place they seemed to be checking for them were for the candy lines.

[frakers]

I've done the parties before so this is just a silly comment. I know folks will hit me for it....

I'm not paying for the MVMCP when we go in November. I'm not happy that the parks close early just to allow Disney to make even more money while shortening my experience but I deal with it, although I've never been happy my ticket is devalued by the hard ticket parties.
I see folks on here saying why shouldn''t they be allowed in earlier than the official start of the party, as much as 3 hours. OK, if that is allowed why am I not allowed to enjoy the park 3 hours AFTER the start of the party? Are you saying when you get in 3 hours early you are just going to sit there and enjoy the view, riding nothing? The hard ticket folks are infringing on my time and taking my place in line while still getting to enjoy the later, less crowded times that I didn't have the desire to spend an extra $150 for the family to attend. I paid for my ticket already.
You say it's not fair that folks linger in the park after 7:00? I say it's the same "not fair" to allow folks in before 7:00. I don't take your time. Don't take mine.

[joonyer]

Only the MK is affected by the parties. Just go to Epcot instead on the day of the party and you an enjoy every minute of the parks regular hours.

And remember nobody is guaranteed a certain number of hours in any Disney Park just because you buy a ticket. Disney is very fond of this disclaimer: "park operating hours and show times are subject to change without notice"

Go in the summer and peak times and MK is open from 9 am to midnight or later (15 hours), but in the off season it closes at 8 on many nights (11 hours), yet the price of admission is the same.

Life, and Disney World, too, ain't always "fair".

[Mitzie]

We are going to MNSSHP on Oct 28th...sorry too late to offer any help. 34 Days....!!!!!

[garthbarth1]

I agree with Frakers-there are two sides to it. Now we go to the party every year, and buy park hopper tickets, and so it is a non issue for us what time they let us in. BUT,if I was at the MK and NOT going to the party, and there were guests there at 4 pm that ONLY bought party tickets , which starts at 7 pm, riding the rides, getting character photos, etc...I would be irritated. Your time, that you paid for, starts at 7 pm...this is my time now, that I have paid for...until the party starts. I would not want my time taken away from me with people who are there early for an event....just the SAME as if I was at the Party, and there were guests there, riding rides, etc...that did not pay for the party and that time, and therefore making lines longer, etc for those of us who did pay. Its the same either way. We went to the party on the 18th, and didnt get there until close to 7 pm bc we were at another park. It was not chaos getting in at all. Now we were leaving the MK at 5 pm on the 14, the first day of the party. They had the MNSSHP entrance set up, were giving out the wrist bands, bags, etc... It was not an issue that day.

[DisneyPrincess21]

We are really the OP simply stated what they were told, and while I do believe the cm said this, cm's have been proven wrong time & time again. I think this thread is being taken down an unnecessary road debating what is "right & wrong" & I am surprised we are still debating this issue.

Bottom lime, the party is 7-12 midnight. If Disney is nice enough to let MNSSHP or MVMCP guest in early, it is not the party guest fault they have been let in early, and they should not have to be made to feel guilty they are getting extra time in the park. This is Disney's decision, and a smart one because it would be a complete mad house if 15,000 or however many people had to wait in line until 7.

Let's leave it at that and move on.

[Scar]

The thing that confuses me about this is... why doesn't Disney come out with an offical policy on this, and stick with it?

[Ian]

I'm not positive, but I don't the call center is anywhere near WDW. For some reason I'm thinking Tampa maybe?

Unless I'm mistaking this call center for another one, it's definitely located on WDW property.

I know someone whose wife works there and I've been told it's located down the road from Ft. Wilderness, somewhat behind the Port Orleans resort area.

The thing that confuses me about this is... why doesn't Disney come out with an offical policy on this, and stick with it?

You could ask that question about a million different things at Disney. I'll never understand why there are so many "unwritten rules" and loopholes in their guest policies.

I swear, they're like Major League Baseball or something!

[Melanie]

Unless I'm mistaking this call center for another one, it's definitely located on WDW property.

But there is also one located in Tampa.

[Joannelet]

The Reservation Center is located in Tampa.

[Ian]

Well since the OP used the word "agent" when describing who they were speaking to, I assume it was the Tampa center then.

I think only maybe the WDW help folks are located on property?

[CaptainSad]

I've done the parties before so this is just a silly comment. I know folks will hit me for it....

I'm not paying for the MVMCP when we go in November. I'm not happy that the parks close early just to allow Disney to make even more money while shortening my experience but I deal with it, although I've never been happy my ticket is devalued by the hard ticket parties.
I see folks on here saying why shouldn''t they be allowed in earlier than the official start of the party, as much as 3 hours. OK, if that is allowed why am I not allowed to enjoy the park 3 hours AFTER the start of the party? Are you saying when you get in 3 hours early you are just going to sit there and enjoy the view, riding nothing? The hard ticket folks are infringing on my time and taking my place in line while still getting to enjoy the later, less crowded times that I didn't have the desire to spend an extra $150 for the family to attend. I paid for my ticket already.
You say it's not fair that folks linger in the park after 7:00? I say it's the same "not fair" to allow folks in before 7:00. I don't take your time. Don't take mine.

Why not go the other nights that the parks are open later instead of thinking your ticket is de-valued because of a party???

[CaptainSad]

We are really the OP simply stated what they were told, and while I do believe the cm said this, cm's have been proven wrong time & time again. I think this thread is being taken down an unnecessary road debating what is "right & wrong" & I am surprised we are still debating this issue.

Bottom lime, the party is 7-12 midnight. If Disney is nice enough to let MNSSHP or MVMCP guest in early, it is not the party guest fault they have been let in early, and they should not have to be made to feel guilty they are getting extra time in the park. This is Disney's decision, and a smart one because it would be a complete mad house if 15,000 or however many people had to wait in line until 7.

Let's leave it at that and move on.

I am pretty sure they limit the tickets to one third of what is allowed during the day.. I think 15K is way to many people and I think you would notice the lines would be over an hour for almost all the rides..

[frakers]

Why not go the other nights that the parks are open later instead of thinking your ticket is de-valued because of a party???

Because I don't want to. Why should I have to? Because you say I should? You're assuming I'm there for "X" number of nights.

[SelfmadeWade]

So there seem to be two issues here:

1) Regular day guests stay in the park past 7pm (and shop or eat) but they cannot do the attractions because they have no wrist bands.

and

2) The Hard Ticket guests get to come in early at 4pm even though they're paying for a ticket that starts at 7pm.

Disney seems to have no problem with either-and the big complaint seems to be the extra people at the attractions in both scenarios.

So I think Disney should keep everything the same, but make one simple rule: Like you see in many bars, the wristbands should be paper and non-removable unless they're cut off. Hard ticket guests will get one put on their wrist when they enter at 4pm. Then: No guest with a wristband may do an attraction before 7pm and no guest without a wrsitband may do an attraction after 7pm.

This way both overlap groups could be in the park together doing what Disney wants (which is shopping and eating), but the attractions remain available only to those who have paid for the corresponding ticket.

Probably even better would be a visible handstamp. If you're stamped, you can't ride before 7pm. And if you're not stamped, you can't ride after 7pm.

[Renfairwedding]

I decided to make calls short of talking to Mickey as I was worried about my 7:30 ADR and not allowing early entry.

I was told yes on early entry. This helps in the smooth transfer from regular day operations to the Halloween event.

My thoughts are the parks hold only so many people and at any time of the day that park for any reason may or may not be at capacity.

Lots of people are leaving as the party crowed is arriving. I never saw a problem a don't think it is a problem.


Oh an Donald says hello!

[faline]

So I think Disney should keep everything the same, but make one simple rule: Like you see in many bars, the wristbands should be paper and non-removable unless they're cut off. Hard ticket guests will get one put on their wrist when they enter at 4pm. Then: No guest with a wristband may do an attraction before 7pm and no guest without a wrsitband may do an attraction after 7pm.

This way both overlap groups could be in the park together doing what Disney wants (which is shopping and eating), but the attractions remain available only to those who have paid for the corresponding ticket.

How would you handle someone who has a right to be in the park before the party but also has party tickets and enters around 4 p.m.? For example, I've had annual passes which would allow me into the park during regular park hours. However, I've entered the Magic Kingdom around 4 or so and, instead of using my annual pass, I've used my party ticket and gotten a wristband. This was mostly done for my convenience - so I wouldn't have to worry about getting a wrist band later.