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    I feel bad for the father son team. I hope the injury isn't as bad as it looks. If I remember any team that has managed to hurt an ankle usually falters in the race shortly thereafter.

    The Twins: I can't believe you would sign up for the race and have a fear of water. I can't remember any of the races that did not involve water at some point. By the end of the leg I had grown to really dislike them having said I liked them in the 1st leg.
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    Do not like the newlyweds at all. They take being two-faced to a whole new level.

    I like the roller derby moms and the hockey players a lot. They are playing the game but having fun too. Chuck and Wynona seem like really nice people but man, she doesn't look like she's in shape enough for the race.
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    So much I could say about last night's episode. Oy Vey! That made me laugh out loud. Phil did kind of apologize on his Twitter for saying that, saying it just kind of popped out. But really, John was talking all kinds of jibberish. I know they were beyond tired, but how could they not have used the Express Pass? Wow.

    I was on the edge of my seat for almost the entire last half hour. I was really concerned for the hockey players (my favorite team) and the roller derby moms. And despite the fact that she shouldn't be on the race, I find myself liking Chuck and Wynonna. Although, I admit I'm looking forward to the day when she can't say "You do it!". It will make for good TV, me thinks.

    I'm wavering a bit on Connor and Dave. What do you guys think about Connor being able to push Dave in a wheelchair around the airports? I don't think it's fair. I'm mean surely, Chuck and Wynonna could gain some ground if he pushed her around, no? And that move by Connor at the end was kinda sneaky. I guess I'm just feeling that it's fairly certain they won't be able to win it all, so I'm ready for them to go.

    YouTube boy....ugh. Hope they are gone soon.

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    Oh man, I also laughed when Phil said that. Can't blame him though, that elimination was all sorts of weird! Feel bad for his girlfriend. Wonder how that will play out when they get home. I'd be mad at him for not listening to me the whole leg and getting us eliminated.

    Agree on the YouTube guy. Super annoying. Though they seem in very good shape so I can see them around for a little bit more (not much of they keep to their "alliance")

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    Too slow, can't swim, can't drive a stick shift, make a mistake about reading a clue, don't make the earliest plane contection - could all get you sent home. But plain old being stupid does it every time. Good golly Miss Molly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    So much I could say about last night's episode. Oy Vey! That made me laugh out loud.

    I'm wavering a bit on Connor and Dave. What do you guys think about Connor being able to push Dave in a wheelchair around the airports? I don't think it's fair.

    YouTube boy....ugh. Hope they are gone soon.
    Loved the off-the-cuff remark by Phil when the couple didn't use their Express Pass at the right time. Oh well......

    There have been many times when teams have sort of cheated to get ahead, so I'm not too concerned about Dad-Son team getting a break. No, it wasn't fair, but they have a greater obstacle with Dad's leg. I'm fairly certain they will be eliminated soon. I was rooting for them.

    Not too fond of YouTube couple. They are BEYOND irritating with their "aren't we cute" actions.

    Rooting hard for the hockey brothers right now.
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    I was rooting for them to get eliminated at the end because of John's silly pride. When your back is against the wall, you use the express pass! That's what it is for.

    I don't mind that Connor peeked at Winnie's board. It's the name of the game. She should've made sure that part was covered. If I had no idea what I was looking for, I'd be trying to see what the other teams were doing as well.

    Connor and Dave will run into issues at some point (unless the rules changed) because Dave is going to need to do some roadblocks!
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    I've been on a couple different message boards where people have gotten upset about Connor looking at Winnie's board, going so far as to say that he cheated. Cheating would infer, at least imo, a direct infraction of the rules. Since Phil did not penalize him, there was no infraction and thus no cheating occurred. These challenges are not randomly set up. This was a close quarters type roadblock, it was pretty obvious that teams would be side by side, Connor did what probably 99% of us would have done in his situation. Its no different than not knowing where you are going and you tell your cabbie "follow that team". It happens all the time. If the rules don't prohibit it, it isn't cheating.

    Its hard to believe that Dan and Connor or Chuck and Wynona are much longer for this race. Teams that make the final 3, depending on whether or not they get a Fast Forward or use an Express Pass, generall have a final roadblock ratio of 7-7, 7-6 or 6-6. Right now both Chuck and Connor have performed 4 of 5 possible roadblocks, meaning they probably at most can do 3 more each. The double u-turn next week might help both of them, as would a future fast forward, but eventually the one-sided roadblock performances is going to catch up to them.

    I can't even believe to begin to describe how stupid John is. That could be one of the single dumbest things ever (not) done on TAR, getting eliminated with an Express Pass in your back pocket. When Bates and Anthony finally arrived (which told them the 3rd flight was in) and when they struggled, they should have used the EP to take them to the roadblock. After spending that much time on the detour, and knowing the other flight was in and teams were there, switching tasks made absolutely no sense. Even giving them the benefit of the doubt, when they got to the river sand detour, and didn't see the Roller Derby moms, they should have pulled the EP out. Lastly, when they got to the Roadblock and saw teams still there, what could possibly possess you to risk elimination, not know what the roadblock was? Hand over the EP and go see Phil. You lose the EP, big deal, you'd only have it 4 more legs anyway and better safe then sorry. It was almost like "paralysis of analysis". A lot of what John was saying made sense, up to the point where they lost all their time advantage and found themselves falling behind. At that point, cut and run. I figured they were probably the closest thing to a sure bet to make final 3 out of all the 11 teams.

    I was glad the hockey brothers survived. Between the bad cabbie and the Express pass, I thought for certain they were doomed, especially once the bad cabbie forced them to do the fruit detour (they would have aced the other one).

    Next week should provide more drama with the double u-turn.

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    What an episode, I will say so far this season has been excellent in both locale and drama. Was pleased to see the hockey guys and Chuck and Wynonna pull it out. Chuck was quite good with the fruit. Father and Son are going to be hosed soon with the challenges though. With the crutches etc the wheelchair thing didn't bother me really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateLover View Post
    II don't mind that Connor peeked at Winnie's board.
    I was just thinking about this and wonder if Connor KNEW that she had the right answer?
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    I wouldn't have minded Connor peeking at Winnie's board so much if there hadn't have been that exchange between them right before. I think more than anything I was just a bit shocked as they, (the producers and even his dad) had been presenting Connor as this kid who could do absolutely no wrong. I know, it's not that big of a deal, but it did kinda bother me after he essentially told Winnie he wouldn't help her if she helped him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Jill A View Post
    I was just thinking about this and wonder if Connor KNEW that she had the right answer?
    No, he didn't know. All he knew for certain was that he didn't have any idea of what to look for, so Winnie's guess/choice was as good as anything he was going to pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I wouldn't have minded Connor peeking at Winnie's board so much if there hadn't have been that exchange between them right before. I think more than anything I was just a bit shocked as they, (the producers and even his dad) had been presenting Connor as this kid who could do absolutely no wrong. I know, it's not that big of a deal, but it did kinda bother me after he essentially told Winnie he wouldn't help her if she helped him.

    I think that is being taken a bit out of context. When they discussed working together Winnie put out a pretty big caveat saying she'd work with him if, "you let us take first and you take second" to which Connor then said no.

    At that point - "all is fair in love and war". Winnie still had the time advantage, but got lost. And she could have done a better job of hiding the board from him if she was that concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hitchhiking Ghost View Post
    I think that is being taken a bit out of context. When they discussed working together Winnie put out a pretty big caveat saying she'd work with him if, "you let us take first and you take second" to which Connor then said no.

    At that point - "all is fair in love and war". Winnie still had the time advantage, but got lost. And she could have done a better job of hiding the board from him if she was that concerned.
    Again, not that big of a deal, but I just didn't care for the exchange.

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    So I watched last week's show on Saturday and then the new episode last night (of course). I have to say that I agree that Connor looking at Winnie's surfboard felt a bit wrong to me, even if it wasn't against the rules--especially when they made a point of not letting the teams see the correct surfboards at the pit stop. Not saying it made Connor look dishonest, but it did not reflect positively on him either. But John, wow--what was going on with him? I attribute it to exhaustion or heat intolerance, but he was almost delusional towards the end of the leg. Jessica should have spoken up more forcefully about using the the Express Pass; unfortunately it took her out of the running for the million dollars as well.

    Last night's show was not as interesting, IMO. And I couldn't believe that Wynona let Chuck do the Vietnam national pride song roadblock. That was her chance to get in on a roadblock that wasn't physical ("you do it" seems to be her favorite phrase). And I did get a kick out of the hockey players holding hands to do the bamboo dance. On an aside, does anyone else think that Anthony looks a little bit like Prince William? Lol--maybe I am delusional!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MNNHFLTX View Post
    On an aside, does anyone else think that Anthony looks a little bit like Prince William? Lol--maybe I am delusional!
    No, I totally see that, Beth. He does! I them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNNHFLTX View Post
    . On an aside, does anyone else think that Anthony looks a little bit like Prince William? Lol--maybe I am delusional!
    Not delusional. They mentioned it themselves in the first episode!

    Can't see how chuck and wynona can stay in any longer. She has yet to do a challenge, and describes herself as the brains in the pair yet couldn't even notice the chicken baskets they missed.

    Hope that the father son team comes back for the next all stars season if they do one. I think without injury they would have been the team To beat.
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    Man Chuck and Wynona ... Whoo! Talk about bad. I can't stand them. They just irritate me by their mere presence. I really hope they're out next time.

    So no one else mentioned it and I'll guess that means the answer is no, but was anyone else kinda put off by that Vietnam propaganda show? I was a bit surprised they'd put the teams through something that was unabashed communist propaganda?

    Maybe it's no stranger than when they put them through religious type stuff but I don't know ... they were waving hammer and sickle flags and talking about the glory of the State and all that. I found it sort of unsettling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Man Chuck and Wynona ... Whoo! Talk about bad. I can't stand them. They just irritate me by their mere presence. I really hope they're out next time.
    What is it you can't stand about them? The fact she's useless? I actually like him a lot, except for the fact he wouldn't listen to her at all last week. That said, they (or at least she) have no business being on this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    So no one else mentioned it and I'll guess that means the answer is no, but was anyone else kinda put off by that Vietnam propaganda show? I was a bit surprised they'd put the teams through something that was unabashed communist propaganda?
    Yeah that made be uncomfortable. I doubt they got a translation like we did, because I was taken aback by some of the lyrics. I can only imagine what Vietnam Vets would feel about Americans being entertained by a song about how Communism and socialism make the Vietnamese "free." (I know my uncle, who almost died there, sure wouldn't like it.) At least they only had to memorize the phrase at the end and not actually perform the song.

    I like Chuck, but Wynona is getting on my nerves! I agree with Beth, I was shocked when she told Chuck to do it because she didn't want to run!?! They had to run for what, 10 seconds to get from the theater to the pictures? What is she waiting for??
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