Survivor: Caramoan (Fans v. Favorites)

[SBETigg]

Oh wow, not surprised, if true.

[TheDuckRocks]

Saw the ads last night and it sure looks like something serious is going down.

[Melanie]

Yep, I think my spoiler might be true. That was a different commercial last night during TAR than what they showed on the previews.

[Granny Jill A]

Potential !



End of !

If this is true, it's about time. He's getting on my last nerve.

[Granny Jill A]

I'm done watching Survivor if they continue with the kind of show they had last night. I was so disgusted by Jeff letting Brandon run his foul mouth over and over. He had his team totally demoralized.

What does everyone think of this episode?

I give it ten thumbs down.

[SBETigg]

I'm done watching Survivor if they continue with the kind of show they had last night. I was so disgusted by Jeff letting Brandon run his foul mouth over and over. He had his team totally demoralized.

What does everyone think of this episode?

I give it ten thumbs down.

That's the kind of drama we do not need, agreed. He was so unstable the first time, I'm still not happy that they invited him back. We all knew this kind of thing was going to happen. So glad he didn't hurt anyone, at least. I hope he gets some mental help. Everyone looked so uncomfortable.

[Melanie]

Honestly though, and I'm not condoning Brandon's behavior in any way, but he had a lot of good points. He and Phillip are both certifiably crazy. It's just that Brandon's crazy comes out in another way. It's obvious there are a lot of folks there who cared for Brandon's well being and are aware that the boy is unstable. I thought Jeff handled it as well as possible, knowing with the time bomb he was dealing with.

That said, HECK NO, I don't want any more episodes like that. It threw off the mojo of the show.

[JanetMegan]

You know what I found a little odd though? I actually found myself sort of rooting for/sticking up for Phillip. I mean I know he is crazy too but he walked away, he didn't try to make things worse where Brandon just kept hammering at it and stuff. Phillip actually gains a couple notches last night-granted he is still way down there but I thought he actually handled himself well.

[SBETigg]

I used to think Phillip was crazy. Now I think he's probably very sane and it's just his schtick. I imagine he's some real guy in the real world who always wanted to be on TV and he came up with this character he plays on Survivor, and it works for him there. He could be really crazy, but he's playing this character too well. With real mental health issues, there are cycles, breaks, highs, lows. Look at Brandon and his constant mood swings and contradictions of himself. But Phillip is solidly the same guy from minute to minute out there. It strikes me more as an illusion, a trick he's playing, than a delusion, that he honestly believes anything he's putting out there.

[Melanie]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, Sherri. I truly think Phillip is crazy. He flips out whenever someone questions his authority and he's totally delusional in his abilities. And remember last time when he supposed that racial slur? He's crazy. I agree he keeps it in better, but he knows when to throw out an insult and make things worse. And his digs were pretty cruel. He and Corrine came out looking horrible after 'tribal'. Everyone else, how sad! The girls were so distraught and the guys looked like they'd been so beat down. I'd love to hear exactly how everyone feels about it all.

l place a lot of the blame on the producers who put these two crazies together, probably full well knowing how it would play out.

Although, I'm seeing some folks say Brandon's is schtick too, saying that in no way was full out rage when he was dumping the rice and beans. Who knows...it is 'reality' tv, after all.

That said...Reynold. What a tool. I can't believe he found another idol, and really, just how hard do they even try to hide those things? It used to be such an process, with clue after clue, and now it seems like every one of them is snug in a tree trunk.

[TheDuckRocks]

I used to think Phillip was crazy. Now I think he's probably very sane and it's just his schtick. I imagine he's some real guy in the real world who always wanted to be on TV and he came up with this character he plays on Survivor, and it works for him there. He could be really crazy, but he's playing this character too well. With real mental health issues, there are cycles, breaks, highs, lows. Look at Brandon and his constant mood swings and contradictions of himself. But Phillip is solidly the same guy from minute to minute out there. It strikes me more as an illusion, a trick he's playing, than a delusion, that he honestly believes anything he's putting out there.

Sheri, thank you for putting into words the exact feelings about Phillip that I came away with this week.

[Melanie]

You know what I found a little odd though? I actually found myself sort of rooting for/sticking up for Phillip. I mean I know he is crazy too but he walked away, he didn't try to make things worse where Brandon just kept hammering at it and stuff. Phillip actually gains a couple notches last night-granted he is still way down there but I thought he actually handled himself well.

I didn't see that at all. The digs on his kids (really, no one should go there) and patronizing Brandon for apologizing (what's wrong with that?) was low. He knows how Brandon is, and he egged it on.

ETA: It's obvious no one here agrees with me on Phillip. He's just a special brand of irritating to me, and I dislike him more than Brandon. Brandon I just feel sorry for. He's a product of a very, very messed up family. I hope he gets some help.

[SBETigg]

ETA: It's obvious no one here agrees with me on Phillip. He's just a special brand of irritating to me, and I dislike him more than Brandon. Brandon I just feel sorry for. He's a product of a very, very messed up family. I hope he gets some help.

Not saying I like Phillip, and he was definitely a problem. I just don't think he's crazy. I think it's all calculated, for the most part, but I do think Brandon actually got under his skin. Except for his Brandon missteps, I do have to give Phillip credit for not breaking character in his season and a half so far, plus the aftershows-- if it is a character. I don't think he should win, and I'm not sure that's even a real goal for him. I think he wants to be memorable on TV.

[TheDuckRocks]

Sorry, Mel, do not get me wrong I do not like Phillip at all. I just think like Sheri that he is playing a part with enough conviction to possibly getting him to the finals again.
As for Brandon if, and that's a big if, he truely is in real life any where close to what we are seeing on TV - he needs help. I feel very sorry for anyone who is as angry as he seems.

[Melanie]

And Phillip, as crazy as ever. I cringe when he goes on one of his tangents, to the point of it being unwatchable, it's so stupid.

[Melanie]

So, what did everyone think of the blindside? I always enjoy a good blindside, and this one was no exception.

I will say that Malcolm better get it together quick, and get himself back on the majority side, or he's gone (regardless of the idol situation).

[Ian]

I don't really know why, because I didn't particularly have any strong feelings one way or the other about Corrinne, but I really enjoyed watching her get the boot last night. I guess something about her attitude during the episode just rubbed me the wrong way, because I gave a mini-cheer when Jeff tossed her out.

Should be interesting to see where it goes from here. If they were smart, the less physically talented players would align and vote off the Malcolm/Reynold, etc. contingent and take control of the game.

[Melanie]

If they were smart, the less physically talented players would align and vote off the Malcolm/Reynold, etc. contingent and take control of the game.

I think they are already well on the way to doing that.

[SBETigg]

I think they are already well on the way to doing that.

Agreed. Malcolm is on the wrong side of the numbers and I hope he scrambles out a plan. Dawn and Cochran are really controlling things out there, I think, and with Cochran calling Malcolm the "golden god" of the game last night, I can't imagine they will let him get much further, certainly not to the end. Unless Malcolm wins some more people over. I'm not sure Dawn and Cochran are on the radar for a lot of them right now as far as being threats. They seem to be distracted by crazy Phillip.

[russ57]

The head of the secret agents must be terminated sooner than later. He is one of a kind.