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Originally Posted by showmethemouse
So if there is no more smoking areas now in the parks. Where are the smokes supposed to go? The parks are to big to walk all the way to the front of the park to smoke.
Beginning May 1, 2019; exiting the park will be the only option per the revised policy.
Originally Posted by Walt Disney World
Also beginning May 1, smoking areas will no longer be present inside Walt Disney World or Disneyland theme parks, water parks, ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex or Downtown Disney in California.
TIP: Designated smoking areas will be available outside the entrances of the areas listed above and at Disney Springs in Florida. For guests who have room or dining reservations, smoking areas are also available at Disney Resort hotels.
You can contact Walt Disney World Guest Services at [email protected] to express your concerns and they may be able to provide further comments.
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I applaud Disney on their new no smoking policy. There have been times when the park was so busy the only way to pass was via the smoking area. I have also walked thru not realizing it was the smoking area. ( Choke, gag, gross, asthma attack!)
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well, you’ve got your way now. I’m glad your happy that I can’t enjoy the parks anymore. Because, you know, it’s all about you, you, you.
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I don't smoke but I know people who do and sometimes visit the parks with them. The smoking areas I am aware of are off to side areas and you typically pretty much have to intentionally go into the area. I see them having problems enforcing this new no smoking policy. Even if they do enforce it, what are they going to do when there are 500 people at any given time right outside the entrance to the parks with a smoke plume drifting from them? Welcome to the Magic Kingdom......get you a big whiff of smoke on your way in. lol
Like I said, I do not smoke but if I did, I would do what most smokers are going to do and that is step off to the side in random places and light one up and smoke until either done or an employee spots me and comes over and tells me no smoking allowed. That is basically how this is going to go down. You can either give them a designated area or they will just try to hide for a minute and smoke real quick all over the parks. I personally would prefer they have designated areas so I can avoid them.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
what are they going to do when there are 500 people at any given time right outside the entrance to the parks with a smoke plume drifting from them? Welcome to the Magic Kingdom......get you a big whiff of smoke on your way in. lol
So that means it's not going to be "right outside the entrance", but a fair distance away.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
Like I said, I do not smoke but if I did, I would do what most smokers are going to do and that is step off to the side in random places and light one up and smoke until either done or an employee spots me and comes over and tells me no smoking allowed. That is basically how this is going to go down. You can either give them a designated area or they will just try to hide for a minute and smoke real quick all over the parks. I personally would prefer they have designated areas so I can avoid them.
I certainly hope you are not correct in how smokers will act, but I am afraid you might be correct...and vapers just won't care.
I am (currently) a smoker, but would not THINK of doing something like that. I may waste a good deal of time running out to the 'official' smoking area, or shorten some of my time in an individual park. Figure that if I have to leave the park to get a smoke, I will probably go as long as I feel necessary, go out and have a smoke, then head out to another park, or back to the resort. Luckily, I am not a heavy smoker, so I could possibly go for quite a while before wanting one if I keep busy inside the park.
My problem, and I think you will find this with a lot of smokers, is when I have had a few 'adult' beverages. Alcohol and cigarettes seem to go together for those of us who smoke. BUT, I will find a way to make it work as long as there is a designated smoking area close to the entrances of each park.
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I was at disney last week and there seemed to be smokers everywhere anyway, not just the designated smoking areas...in queues, in the bathrooms, at the front of restaurants, in the bus stops, etc. I am not a smoker and do not like walking thru or standing in a plume of smoke, but I think it's going to be very hard to enforce a complete smoking ban. Maybe they decided this because so many smokers were breaking the rules? Not sure.
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Originally Posted by Dewdrop034
well, you’ve got your way now. I’m glad your happy that I can’t enjoy the parks anymore. Because, you know, it’s all about you, you, you.
If the only way you can enjoy things in life is with a cigarette, you may want to consider seeing a counselor. I know this will come off way differently than it is meant, but lack of enjoyment in life could be a sign of depression or other psychological issues.
I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
I don't smoke but I know people who do and sometimes visit the parks with them. The smoking areas I am aware of are off to side areas and you typically pretty much have to intentionally go into the area. I see them having problems enforcing this new no smoking policy. Even if they do enforce it, what are they going to do when there are 500 people at any given time right outside the entrance to the parks with a smoke plume drifting from them? Welcome to the Magic Kingdom......get you a big whiff of smoke on your way in. lol
All I can imagine is people pulling into the parking lot, see a ton of smoke rising up from the entrance and think that Magic Kingdom is on fire. lol
I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
Like I said, I do not smoke but if I did, I would do what most smokers are going to do and that is step off to the side in random places and light one up and smoke until either done or an employee spots me and comes over and tells me no smoking allowed. That is basically how this is going to go down. You can either give them a designated area or they will just try to hide for a minute and smoke real quick all over the parks. I personally would prefer they have designated areas so I can avoid them.
I think this is what is going to happen, except I don't believe an employee will come over and them to stop smoking. They don't seem to intervene much with the people who have had too much to drink.
I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.
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Although I am not a smoker, I can see how this smoking ban will be an inconvenience to those who do. Too bad Disney doesn't use one of the empty buildings in each park and turn them into lounges that smokers can use. This way you have a place to relax and the walkways are freed up for traffic. Seriously, I meant no offence.
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Originally Posted by Cinderelley
All I can imagine is people pulling into the parking lot, see a ton of smoke rising up from the entrance and think that Magic Kingdom is on fire. lol
Originally Posted by Cinderelley
I think this is what is going to happen, except I don't believe an employee will come over and them to stop smoking. They don't seem to intervene much with the people who have had too much to drink.
Time for folks to try other tobacco products. I enjoy my Redman, when I can't have a cigar. Well, they are too busy not doing anything.
Originally Posted by bleen3162
Although I am not a smoker, I can see how this smoking ban will be an inconvenience to those who do. Too bad Disney doesn't use one of the empty buildings in each park and turn them into lounges that smokers can use. This way you have a place to relax and the walkways are freed up for traffic. Seriously, I meant no offence.
Having a smoking lounge would be incredible. Course, us cigar smokers would arrive and then realize we spent 10 hours inside the lounge and end up divorced.
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Originally Posted by Cinderelley
I think this is what is going to happen, except I don't believe an employee will come over and them to stop smoking. They don't seem to intervene much with the people who have had too much to drink.
From my experience of being in the parks with smokers, they absolutely will intervene when the smoker isn't in the designated area. I guess it depends on who's working that day. *♀️
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Originally Posted by Cinderelley
I think this is what is going to happen, except I don't believe an employee will come over and them to stop smoking. They don't seem to intervene much with the people who have had too much to drink.
Originally Posted by magicofdisney
From my experience of being in the parks with smokers, they absolutely will intervene when the smoker isn't in the designated area. I guess it depends on who's working that day. ����*♀️
It has been my experience that it is hit and miss. I have witnessed a couple of times where an employee approached someone smoking outside of a smoking area and told them they had to go to the smoking area. Typically what happens is the smoker just says okay and then proceeds to take a couple of long last draws on the cigarette pretty much finishing it and then throws it on the ground and steps on it. In my opinion, this is about how the enforcement will probably go. I mean, how many other rules do they have that they don't actually enforce? And would they really throw someone out of the park for smoking? I doubt it.
Another thing that I don't even think Disney is thinking about is the fact that other countries and parts of the world don't frown on smoking like is the thing to do here in the US. I have seen parents sitting in the smoking section with their kids that appeared to be around age 13 or 14 who was also smoking before. They were speaking other languages so I was pretty sure they were from other countries. What is Disney going to do when they are ticking foreign guests off who are not accustomed to smoking bans in public? This looks more like another example of agenda pushing to me.
I am not advocating for smoking. I am just saying, with so many smokers visiting the parks, why do you want to be picking fights with them all day long every day? Just give them smoking areas or even better, build smoking lounges with air filtration that exhausts out the top of the building and don't worry about it.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
I am not advocating for smoking. I am just saying, with so many smokers visiting the parks, why do you want to be picking fights with them all day long every day? Just give them smoking areas or even better, build smoking lounges with air filtration that exhausts out the top of the building and don't worry about it.
I would love an indoor smoking lounge. However, probably a florida law anyway against it. Places where smoking bans have occurred (indoors) will usually only allow it in tobacco shops, maybe some bars, etc. Though Disney might could probably figure out a way (like you can smoke cigars at Sosas).
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Originally Posted by texas211
I would love an indoor smoking lounge. However, probably a florida law anyway against it. Places where smoking bans have occurred (indoors) will usually only allow it in tobacco shops, maybe some bars, etc. Though Disney might could probably figure out a way (like you can smoke cigars at Sosas).
I like the way the one casino here does it (MD Live!) -- They have a smoking lounge that has an open 'back' to allow the smoke to drift (with the help of some decent sized fans) outside and away from the room. They also have a entry 'tunnel' with doors at each end and fans to 'freshen' the people coming out of the lounge into the main casino. It keeps the main casino smoke-free and takes some of the reek off the patrons.
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Originally Posted by PopPhan
I like the way the one casino here does it (MD Live!) -- They have a smoking lounge that has an open 'back' to allow the smoke to drift (with the help of some decent sized fans) outside and away from the room. They also have a entry 'tunnel' with doors at each end and fans to 'freshen' the people coming out of the lounge into the main casino. It keeps the main casino smoke-free and takes some of the reek off the patrons.
Is that in Maryland?
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Yes it is. Hanover MD, across (literally) from Arundel Mills Mall. About 10 miles from Columbia, MD. Even less from BWI airport.
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Originally Posted by PopPhan
I certainly hope you are not correct in how smokers will act, but I am afraid you might be correct...and vapers just won't care.
I am (currently) a smoker, but would not THINK of doing something like that. I may waste a good deal of time running out to the 'official' smoking area, or shorten some of my time in an individual park. Figure that if I have to leave the park to get a smoke, I will probably go as long as I feel necessary, go out and have a smoke, then head out to another park, or back to the resort. Luckily, I am not a heavy smoker, so I could possibly go for quite a while before wanting one if I keep busy inside the park.
My problem, and I think you will find this with a lot of smokers, is when I have had a few 'adult' beverages. Alcohol and cigarettes seem to go together for those of us who smoke. BUT, I will find a way to make it work as long as there is a designated smoking area close to the entrances of each park.
We have smokers in our extended family group who would not smoke out of a designated area either. They would also try to tough it out smoke free for as long as possible.
What I see happening is that instead of having lunch or supper in a Disney park, they will take their immediate family outside Disney to eat. Extended family members will then decide if they are also leaving Disney to join them for the meal, or eat separately.
We were at WDW first week of July 2018 and Thanksgiving week 2017 - was not overwhelmed with second hand smoke anywhere in the parks. One of our group is an ex-smoker/severe asthmatic and she'd have let us know about someone smoking out of place.
Meaning only to say, this move by Disney caught us by surprise.
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