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The husband's claim sounds even more frivilous.
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People do not seem to realize (or care) that when they file friv/outrageous claims that they only hurt the legitimate ones. Disney is an extremely well run organization. Safety really is paramount. This woman is taking advantage to the detriment of every one else. Again, I find fault with her atty.
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Originally Posted by Scar
Can we turn it into a "lawyer bashing" thread?
Originally Posted by gmgdisneymom
I am an atty (when I grow up I want to be a CM! ) and I find fault with the atty who is representing her. THEY give atty's a bad name. I hope disney fights this and doesn't settle.
OK, gmg, you and I can hit Scar with so much legalese we'll have his head spinning.
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If this had happened in line at the grocery store, I wonder if she'd still be suing. I think they or someone told them they should go after Disney since it happened in the park. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.
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Originally Posted by KineGirl
Hey! we met this guy at the Pirate and Princess party last August!
Secondly, to all you lawyers out there...
How do I get in on this law suit.
Reading and hearing about this beating has caused me to become fearful of teacups and standing in line.
I now feel the need to medically bypass all lines in disney because it has instilled such a tremendous fear for my personal safety that it is now causing me to have sleepless nights and I break out into a sweat at the thought of spinning teacups and lines.
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I hope they ban Krause from any Disney owned or affliated store, property, etc!! She is just one of a group of deeply sick-minded people that are ruining this great way of life in the US! Jump off a cliff Mrs. Krause!!
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I think this is crazy, can I start a pretend fight with a friend at Disney and then sue them for not handling it properly. People should be able to police themself. I once saw a guy cursing to another at the Mexico Pavillion and said to myself, I don't understand how one can get upset especially since your on vacation. I take my time relax and enjoy myself at Disneyworld. Your supposed to go and be happy and not be all stressed out, this is not your job site.
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Sounds To Me That She Is A 1st Class "gold Diggeer" It Wasn't Disneys Fault She Jumped Line. That Was Her Fault She Knew Better. She Should Be Banned For That Reason Line Jumping
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The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. She's claiming she has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after this brief fight at Disney.
Meanwhile soldiers returning from IRAQ have to fight their insurance companies to get medical coverage for the same disorder this woman is claiming!
And her husband is suing for loss of companionship???? Seriously? She's alive. Even if she spent a couple days in the hospital (which I doubt) how did he lose "companionship?"
I think the Krauses deserve all the ridicule they get as a result of this. The person who picked the fight is paying her debt, I don't see how any of it is the problem of Disney itself.
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Could Disney's actions have contributed to the incident? Possibly. Have they already found someone to be guilty of inflicting damage? Yes. I don't think they'll get much and will probably end up settling if it isn't thrown out.
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I'm sorry to say this, but as a CM, I would never break up a fight. Try to talk to them reasonably, get them to calm down. But break one up? I don't want the flying arms and fists to land in my face, I don't get paid enough for that.
Then, it also gets into the matter of how far can a Disney CM take the break -up? Restraining the people? Then you get into the battery areas and lawsuits can arise from claims of "they grabbed me in an inappropriate way" or "they twisted my arm/sprained my whatever when they restrained me."
No thanks.
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Originally Posted by TiggTigg5
Last month, an Orange County jury convicted Walker of battery. During the trial, Krause and several witnesses testified that she was beaten and kicked by Walker because Walker was upset that she and members of her church group lost their place in line.
Interesting ... very interesting ... I wonder if she also attends the Nights of Joy. This behavior is consistent with the behavior of the "church going folks" I saw the one and only time I attended that disaster.
Originally Posted by CaptainJessicaSparrow
I'm sorry to say this, but as a CM, I would never break up a fight.
As a CM, you shouldn't have to break up a fight that's what Disney has a security force for.
I hate to say it ... I'm the first to jump on people for filing frivolous lawsuits ... but this one is at least legit to be filed. Disney may actually be liable to a degree, depending on what the details of the case are. If it can be proven that their lack of response or slow response contributed to her injuries, then they'll have to pay.
That being said, the amount they'll have to pay is going to be severely limited due to the juries special finding that the plantiffs injuries were only minor.
My guess is Disney offers her a nominal sum to make her go away.
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She and members of her church group??? Shouldn't she sue the person who started the fight???
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legally, disney CAN ban her from all of their property (forever, mind you). However, how does it look if you are suing Disney for PTSD but are still able to go to the parks. I imagine that will be a defense against her.
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Anyone who didn't think was going to happen needs to do some serious self-reflection.....
Disney practically owns the central florida courts....it is difficult to get a dime from them when they are at fault....
the only thing that might happen here is a small payoff to make the press go away....and that's assuming the plaintiff has REALLY good lawyers...
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1. How sad that the actions of a woman with her church group was part of a brawl. For all those who don't attend church on a regular basis, this was just a "IF THAT IS WHAT GOING TO CHURCH DOES, I'M GLAD I DON'T" message. Think of the lives this woman touched that day with her lack of Christian behavior.
2. I would never expect an untrained CM to put themselves in the middle of a fight. Some of them seem to barely have the energy to smile!! I never seem to see a lot of security so that no one was around is not surprising. That said, what DO you do in that kind of a situation. CM's will not step in and security isn't around.
3. I would definitely put her on the Most Wanted List and not allow her to ever step foot in any Disney owned property again.
4. Unfortunately, haven't most of us been at Disney for a vacation and seen some of this type of behavior? We usually get it from a foreigner to our country....sometimes I think they don't understand our culture enough to know line etiquette and such. Sometimes things are done in a different manner in their countries...like what we percieve as cutting in line is just accepted in their country. While everyone is glaring at them, they don't understand what they did wrong!! I have more problems from parents trying to push their children in front of me at a show (not talking about other visitors from other countries) or one person saving places in line for 15 people who show up at the last minute!! WE ARE ON VACATION and should be relaxed and happy and glad we are at the "happiest place on Earth" and act like it.
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I'm sorry, but that just makes me
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CM's (especially ride Op's) should definitely not be responsible for breaking up fights. You remember the t.v. show The Musters, when someone would knock on the front door and see Herman Munster. The person would run away, jump in there car and peel-out as fast as they can. that's how I am when conflicts arise at my work.
The type of person(personality) you hire to be a bouncer, is not the same type of person(personality) you hire to be a CM( HM cm's aside). And, you don't want security looming over everyone waiting for trouble to happen. I don't know what the answer is
Actually, how often does something like this happen at WDW?
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