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Line Jumpers!!!!
Ok I know there have been many threads on this topic, but I just got back from WDW and I never experienced so many line jumpers!!!
WDW really needs to come up with a policy on this because it is really frustrating. We waited in line 90 minutes to meet Disney Fairies with my niece. When we got in line the wait was 60 minutes BUT by the time we had about 5 groups of people cut in front of us it ended up a 90 minute wait. IF YOUR ENTIRE PARTY IS NOT THERE TO GET IN LINE WAIT FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!! You should not be allowed to save a spot and then have six people cut their way through!!!! Sorry I am a little worked up about this!!!!
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1) Did you
. . . say anything to a CM?
. . . say anything to the line jumpers?
. . . try to cut back in front of them?
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Not sure what the answer is, but I know it is can be really frustrating. I know that a lot of our restaurants will not let you go on the waiting list if your entire party is not there. I know some of the restuarants at WDW use that same idea when checking in.
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Originally Posted by jaredkari
Ok I know there have been many threads on this topic, but I just got back from WDW and I never experienced so many line jumpers!!!
WDW really needs to come up with a policy on this because it is really frustrating. We waited in line 90 minutes to meet Disney Fairies with my niece. When we got in line the wait was 60 minutes BUT by the time we had about 5 groups of people cut in front of us it ended up a 90 minute wait. IF YOUR ENTIRE PARTY IS NOT THERE TO GET IN LINE WAIT FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!! You should not be allowed to save a spot and then have six people cut their way through!!!! Sorry I am a little worked up about this!!!!
While I agree with what you are saying, I will point out one thing. The Fairies only takes 3 FAMILIES/PARTIES at a time. So it doesn't matter if the group is one person, or 10 people. They go in at the same time. Your wait time would not have been affected because you still would have to wait for the same amount of families to enter Pixie Hollow.
However, I like when people try to overcome this by joining their family with another in line. Because at that point, I say that there will only be one Photopass given per family and that it will only be a group picture. Which is what we are supposed to do anyways. I had one family try to break up after they enter and I said that they had to keep their party together. Not my fault they lied.
Unfortunately, we really can't say anything to the Guests. All it will do is make the Guests co complain that we were rude and refused to let them ride or see a character, and guess what....re-entry passes and private meet and greets. Yep, it happens. All the time.
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Six Flags in NJ has a policy and signs posted on all of the lines. "Anyone caught cutting the line will be ejected from the park",(or something like that). They certainly don't have as many line cutters as Disney. Disney should do something like this. But there are plenty of people that think as long as one person in your party is waiting in line, it is perfectly acceptable for the rest of your party to cut. They need to have a clear policy, so that we can all do the same thing. If Disney said that it was OK to save a spot for your whole party, I would do it, and I wouldn't get upset when others do it, but for now, I think it's not fair to everyone who waitied behind you.
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Honestly, I think this is a little overblown. Most of the time, the additional folks in front of you do not increase your wait time because they are all part of the same party.
But if it's a family of four and the DH and DS get in line while the DW takes the DD to the rest room, I don't have an issue with that. It's not going to make me wait any longer since the four of them will most likely end up in the same ride vehicle anyway.
At the end of the day, there are so many more aggravating things people do in WDW (jump in front of you at the last minute for parades, run over you with their scooters, smoke where they aren't supposed to, etc.) that this isn't one I bother getting excited over.
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It is irritating, but usually I just let it go. No point in getting upset about it & it's not going to make my wait THAT much longer.
But it is very, very irritating.
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Originally Posted by Ian
At the end of the day, there are so many more aggravating things people do in WDW (jump in front of you at the last minute for parades, run over you with their scooters, smoke where they aren't supposed to, etc.) that this isn't one I bother getting excited over.
couldnt agree more!
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...we just came back from Disney, which was during and through NYE.....now you can imagine the massive crowds..... I have never said anything to anyone about "cutting" line, but this one lady, a little older maybe, at AK, just before opening busted through about knocking down a lady standing directly behind me, jumping the rope on the left side, and began speed walking toward the Tusker House. A CM caught her and coralled her back to us and almost at the same time the lady behind me and myself told her she was behind us and move on back......boy was she mad....we saw her again later, after the rope dropped, at Donald's Safari Breakfast....they turned her away, as she did not have ressies.....boy, was that justice !!!
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I don't mind the ones that are joining there party up ahead (so long as it's not like an entire tour group, just a couple of people). It's the ones that say they are joining their party up ahead that really don't have a party up ahead that annoy me. And, yes, I did witness that happening.
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I don't mind the ones that are joining a party ahead (especially if it is a parent with a kid-bathroom break). It is the older kids that try to sneak by on the outsides of the line slowly cutting in front of everyone (really bad on the pirates ride). The queue is so wide and everyone stands in the middle leaving the outsides open and these kids just squeeze by til they get to a large group and cant go any further. We are a family of five and we all stand side by side to try to take up the width of the line and even put out elbows to stop some kids. I have confronted the kids cutting, but they tell me they are just going up there and point to the front.
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We had a few cases of line jumpers on our Dec. trip...they weren't joining parties either just jumping in...my mom made a point of showing them where the line started, most ignored her, one group got out from in front of us but got right behind us, the people behind us didn't speak up....most of the times CM didn't see it happening....we did see people attempt to line jump at Haunted Mansion and they did get caught by CM and directed to the back of the line
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It's the ones that say they are joining their party up ahead that really don't have a party up ahead that annoy me.
Sincerly, i really tought that THAT was line jumping !!!
So i want to apologize the the people that were in line at Camp Minne-Mickey on December 17 2008 in the afternoon ! Grandpa was waiting in line for us to see Mickey while we (4 people) were going to see Goofy dressed in a santa suit.
We then joined Grandpa in line for Mickey. I don't know if i missed it, but i did not sense anyone being angry at us for that. We even joined in the conversation that Grandpa had with the lovely familly behind him. They did not seemed to mind when we arrived.
Now, i am still not sure if it is right or not for someone to wait for you ???
Is it a matter of party size ? Time of year ?
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We, too, just got back from WDW and experienced the line cutting on many rides. The one time that bothered me the most though, was when a group of grown adults were RUNNING so fast to get in front of me that they
knocked me and my 8 month old daughter into the wall on HM. I ended up being separated from the rest of my family, and let's just say I was a little upset.
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Normally it doesn't bother me much... but last week when I was there, it was getting a bit excessive!
An entire tour group from Brazil ran in front of me and my aunt, pushing us aside, nearly knocking my aunt (who was using a cane and having difficulty walking as it was) to the ground, just to get on the Gran Fiesta Tour ahead of us! Okay, (1) it's not THAT good a ride, (2) there were only 2 of us, and at least 20 of them, and (3) they were just plain obnoxious!
(btw, the rest of the time we were in line, they clapped and chanted and yelled at the top of their lungs...to the point where they drowned out the mariachi cobre! There's enthusiasm and then there's just being obnoxious.. if only any of them had spoken English I would've said something to them!!)
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Rule of thumb... It is not line cutting when you are joining a party member that went ahead to get a spot in line. Some people can't stand that long for health or such reasons. If you have little kids it's nice for you to break up and let someone rest, get a drink or get out of the sun.
Now if someone justs sneaks in line that is a different story.
If you think the rule of thumb above is wrong then I am sorry and guilty as charged. But I will continue to do what has been practiced in my family as well as others. No matter if you are the only one in your party or you have 10. You will still be waiting the same amount of time.
CM's will not break up families because someone in their party joined them.
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Originally Posted by handmaidenofprincesses
An entire tour group from Brazil ran in front of me and my aunt, pushing us aside, nearly knocking my aunt (who was using a cane and having difficulty walking as it was) to the ground, just to get on the Gran Fiesta Tour ahead of us! Okay, (1) it's not THAT good a ride, (2) there were only 2 of us, and at least 20 of them, and (3) they were just plain obnoxious!
(btw, the rest of the time we were in line, they clapped and chanted and yelled at the top of their lungs...to the point where they drowned out the mariachi cobre! There's enthusiasm and then there's just being obnoxious.. if only any of them had spoken English I would've said something to them!!)
I couldn't agree with your comment more!! And thats all I will say about that.
Although it was hilarious on Toy Story Mania we were in line and after about the third person pushed by us the guy behind us started very sarcastically saying to them, "oh yeah they are up there, yeah I saw them they are waiting at the front for you, go ahead" He got some real weird looks from them (although I doubt they could understand him) but it was really funny
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I know for us, this comes down to the person. I have no issues at all if a Mom or Dad is catching up th the rest of the family with a little one, (such as for a bathroom break), or if a grandparent is catching to the rest of the family, etc (and they are usually so polite about it).
But, when it is just a group of people trying to be selfish (such as pushing and shoving) and just trying not to wait I make it difficult to pass. I'm not going to get into a fight over it, but I let them know that it isn't right.
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I was annoyed by this many times on uour disney trip...however it did not bother my DH very much. It think it is a matter of temperment as to what some people will let bother them.
We were in line at Peco Bills, kids were straving, it was raining etc. We just needed to eat and sit down. There were two older women in front of us..and us. We aited a few minutes. Kids were melting down, Only one of us could not carry 4 meals so we all had to wait. After a few minutes two other older women walk up and get behind us. (they have been a few behind us). Well they were together with the women in fornt of us and they realized this and the two women moved in line in front of us. Kids still melting down. It probably prolonged our wait 3-5 minutes. In this situation 3-5 mins seemed VERY long.
I AM SO SORRY, but if they really want to order their food together then the two women in front of us SHOULD HAVE MOVED ON BACK!!!!! It was the height of rudeness. I have experience this in rdie lines..where part of a family gets in line and then maybe 6-10 people get in line and then rest of the family comes along. However I have never seen the people in front tell the 6-10 people to move ahead of them..it is always the people in the back that move ahead. A little courtesy would go a long way.
Sure I can see holding a spot in Dad and kid holding a spot in line while Mom took the other kid to the bathroom etc. But there is some BLATANT rudeness and line cutting.
I also suspected CMs could not say much, unless maybe it was directly witnessed due to PR/complaint issues.
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