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Okay, the policy changes on 10/27/09. Here are the rules (plus or minus a day)...you should figure out the exact math yourself:
If you arrive at WDW prior to 1/25/10, then you are on the 90 day plan. Take your arrival date and back up 90 days.
If you arrive at WDW between 1/25/10 and 4/25/10, you need to call on 10/27/09, as everybody in that group is within 180 days of 10/27/09 and that's when the new rule takes affect.
If you arrive at WDW after 4/25/10, then count back 180 days from your arrival date.
Unless, of course, they change the rules again.
Richard
1975 Off Site
1993 Dixie Landings
1995 Dixie Landings
1999 All Star Music
2004 Coronado Springs
2006 All Star Music
2007 CBR
Sept 20 - Oct 1 2009 CBR
Disneyland - since the 50's - too many times to count (DD used to work the Jungle Cruise so we got in for FREE!!!)
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Ah Figment, you beat me to the punch.
Richard
1975 Off Site
1993 Dixie Landings
1995 Dixie Landings
1999 All Star Music
2004 Coronado Springs
2006 All Star Music
2007 CBR
Sept 20 - Oct 1 2009 CBR
Disneyland - since the 50's - too many times to count (DD used to work the Jungle Cruise so we got in for FREE!!!)
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ADR's -- not the happiest place on earth!!!
Don't like it one bit! We never book our trips out far enough in advance for the 180 day booking to be an advantage for us-- it is only a disadvantage.
nicci
1975 Off Site
1993 Dixie Landings
1995 Dixie Landings
1999 ASM
2004 CSR
2006 ASM
2007 CBR
2009 CBR
2019 CBR
DL 1971 to now - too many times to count, DL AP holder & Disney stockholder
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Guess I'll throw my hat in to the pro-180 day booking crowd (the minority). I'm super **** retentive and plan way ahead and always got what I wanted at the 180 day mark. I've had many friends like me who, since it went to 90 days, were having extreme difficulties at the 90 mark. The selfish part of me likes it because I know a lot of people do not know at 180 days what their plans are so it gives me a better shot. BTW, I NEVER double book!!! I think that is completely rude- because I am **** retentive I know exactly what I want to do and where I want to be every day and every meal!!!
-Jim ("My name's Jim, but most people call me...Jim") Born 10/1/71- The day WDW opened! "A new life has begun, when two of us are one, and we live to keep the promise- we'll go on."
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LOL. looking at my post it's amusing what they edited out- i didn't think it was a bad word! **** **** ****!!!
-Jim ("My name's Jim, but most people call me...Jim") Born 10/1/71- The day WDW opened! "A new life has begun, when two of us are one, and we live to keep the promise- we'll go on."
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Originally Posted by Figment!
On or after October 27th, 2009.
Starting October 27th, Guests may book Advanced Dining Reservations through April 25, 2010 and up to 180 days in advance there after.
This is beyond frustrating!!!!!!!!!! I'm just finishing making our dining for our November trip and I already have to start planning our March trip or we'll be eating burgers and fries all week!!! Ugh!!! At least I do't have to worry until Oct. I like the 90 + 10. I don't know where I want to eat this weekend never mind in 6 months!!!
"All your dreams can come true if you have the courage to pursue them." - Walt Disney
"Too many people grow up. That 's the trouble with the world, too many people grow up." - Walt Disney
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OK here is why 180 days is a bad decision by Disney. I was talking to someone today who is thinking of going to WDW either the last week in March or possibly the 2nd week in April. I told them that ADRs were changing to 180 days. The response I got was this. Well I guess I better book my reservations 180 days out for both time frames since I don't know exactly which ones I will be using and won't know until atleast January which dates work for me. This is the type of behavior that te 180 days promote. It happened with people booking up restaurants hoping for free dining and not bothering to cancel them if Free Dining wasn't offered during their stay in the past amd we have come full circle to the same problems happening all over again
Jeff (aka JPL)
Former VMK alias figgiefig
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Blythe
Past trips -
3x offsite,May 06 CBR,Oct 07 I'cot 10,Dec 08 CBR,Jan 09 ASMu,Oct 09 CBR/AKL,Jan 11 AsMu,Aug 11 CBR, Oct 11 AKL,Oct 12 I'cot 15,Aug 13 CBR,Aug '14 mini AKL trip
Next -
May '17 DL OR June '17 CBR
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180 days out YES!
Love the 180 booking
Love it
Love it
Love it
Im a planner- and it always works out better.
I did not enjoy the 90 day window at all-
and I am thrilled with the change.
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On a positive note, if you call 180 days out and don't get your reservations that you wanted, you have 179 more days to keep trying as opposed to only 89 days to try again...always a bright side
1999 -2005 Former CM at Space Mtn and Caricature artist at AK and Resorts
Jan 06 BC/Cruise/ASM
Sept 06 Pop
April 07 Pop
Dec. 07 Caribbean Beach
Aug 09 Pop
May 10 Pop
Jan 12 - Dolphin - WDW Half Marathon 1:44:45
Sept 12 - ToT run and MNSSHP - Pop
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I have never had an issue booking 180 or 90 days out-
i have had issues changing reservations but thats more the fault of others joining our party ( or one who could even be in a place that served raw fish - go figure)
but for my family, we've never ever had an issue- Cali Grill, le Cellier etc- i have been able to get them fine.
I do feel that 90 days is much easier-
Bryan
DVC since 02, Poly 89-90, Tokyo 98, CB 99, Swan 01, WL 06 ,08, 10, BLT 11, HHI 12, OKW 12-13, BC 03-05, 07-09, 11, 13,16 , 17
Contemporary 05, 13, GC DLR 15, VeroBeach 16, AoA 16
"There's Blood on the saddle, and Blood all around...."Big Al-
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Originally Posted by candleshoe
Guess I'll throw my hat in to the pro-180 day booking crowd (the minority). I'm super **** retentive and plan way ahead and always got what I wanted at the 180 day mark. I've had many friends like me who, since it went to 90 days, were having extreme difficulties at the 90 mark. The selfish part of me likes it because I know a lot of people do not know at 180 days what their plans are so it gives me a better shot. BTW, I NEVER double book!!! I think that is completely rude- because I am **** retentive I know exactly what I want to do and where I want to be every day and every meal!!!
You know, I couldn't have put all that better myself. A great big "DITTO"!
Dec '88 - off site
Dec '91 - off site
Mar '93 - off site
Dec '94 - Dixie Landings
Dec '96 - All Star Sports
Mar '98 - Dixie Landings
Dec '01 - Dixie Landings
May '04 - PORS
May '06 - PORS
Nov '08 - PORS
Nov '10 - PORS
Nov '12 - PORS
Nov '14 - PORS
Nov '16 - PORS
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Originally Posted by JPL
OK here is why 180 days is a bad decision by Disney. I was talking to someone today who is thinking of going to WDW either the last week in March or possibly the 2nd week in April. I told them that ADRs were changing to 180 days. The response I got was this. Well I guess I better book my reservations 180 days out for both time frames since I don't know exactly which ones I will be using and won't know until atleast January which dates work for me.
They shouldn't be allowed to get an ADR until they've got a resort reservation. That way the double bookings on their ADRs would be moot.
Dec '88 - off site
Dec '91 - off site
Mar '93 - off site
Dec '94 - Dixie Landings
Dec '96 - All Star Sports
Mar '98 - Dixie Landings
Dec '01 - Dixie Landings
May '04 - PORS
May '06 - PORS
Nov '08 - PORS
Nov '10 - PORS
Nov '12 - PORS
Nov '14 - PORS
Nov '16 - PORS
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I am one that loves the 180 days out as well. I tend to plan my vacations out more than six months out. I also fall into the category of retentive planner.
I sit down figure out what parks I will be at as soon as the park hours come out. Then I pick where I want to eat. It does give us an advantage to those who don't plan out as far in advance (for whatever reason), but then so does 90 days. I know many people that like to do last minute trips. They are at a disadvantage with making ADRs whether it is 90 days or 180 days out. So, I suppose they could argue for a No advance drining reservation policy or a 45 day advance dining reservation.
I also think that if there are that many who do not know/plan 180 days out, then at 90 days out there should still be a lot of dining options left. And on the same note, as it is at 90 days, those who planned out way in advance are on the phone or internet early as can be to book, so within the first few hours, they have already booked up what they would have booked prior to that. So, the advantage to those who book later, is not that great at 90 days. (that is, all early planners and later planners are on the phone at 90 days, so dining books up very quick 90 days out).
I completely disagree with double booking for a trip. I do think Disney needs to reconsider their booking policy. Maybe take a card and charge for no shows. I know Brown Derby charges for every person in your party for a no show (I think it is $20 per person). Why can't the rest of the restaraunts do this?
Lori Ann
Mother of twin 9 year old girls
Dixie Landings 11/96 (honeymoon)
Dixie Landings/Cruise 12/2000
CBR 11/2005
Riverside - 9/2006,
FQ - 11/2007, 9/2008, 9/2009
CSR 5/2010, AKL 5/2010 (split stay)
FQ 11/2010
CSR 11/2011
CBR 05/2012
GF 06/2012
CSR 11/2012
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Originally Posted by Pigtunia
They shouldn't be allowed to get an ADR until they've got a resort reservation. That way the double bookings on their ADRs would be moot.
This policy would exclude all those who do not stay on site.
Lori Ann
Mother of twin 9 year old girls
Dixie Landings 11/96 (honeymoon)
Dixie Landings/Cruise 12/2000
CBR 11/2005
Riverside - 9/2006,
FQ - 11/2007, 9/2008, 9/2009
CSR 5/2010, AKL 5/2010 (split stay)
FQ 11/2010
CSR 11/2011
CBR 05/2012
GF 06/2012
CSR 11/2012
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Having to book 90 days out or 180 days out makes no difference to me.
There are NO Disney restaurants that I HAVE to ever go back to. There isn't one that truly stands out.
The best meal I've ever had at Disney came last January when my buddy Pete made chicken marsala in our 2BR at Old Key West. it was outstanding and so much better than ANYTHING we've ever had in the parks or at the resorts.
My wife and I are going to give the quick service dining plan a try in November. We don't have any ADR's. We're just going to go with the flow and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by Imagineer1981
On a positive note, if you call 180 days out and don't get your reservations that you wanted, you have 179 more days to keep trying as opposed to only 89 days to try again...always a bright side
I think that's an excellent point. There may be a lot of people making ADRs "just in case" but as they get closer to their trip will have to make adjustments to their plans.
I guess the moral of the story is: if at first you don't get your ADR, try, try again!
**mousetrapper**
CBR Oct. 1999
Poly Nov. 2001
CBR Oct. 2003
BC Oct. 2004
CBR Sept. 2005
Poly Thanksgiving Week 2007
CBR Nov. 2009
Port Orleans Nov. 2011
CBR May/June 2013
AoA Sept. 2013
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Originally Posted by Figment!
You will still be able to call no earlier than 90 days in advance (8/21/09)
Only arrivals on and after January 25, 2010 will be affected by this change.
Ah, Figment! you're the best.
Now if only I could be sure the Nov. hours are accurate...
**mousetrapper**
CBR Oct. 1999
Poly Nov. 2001
CBR Oct. 2003
BC Oct. 2004
CBR Sept. 2005
Poly Thanksgiving Week 2007
CBR Nov. 2009
Port Orleans Nov. 2011
CBR May/June 2013
AoA Sept. 2013
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I was pleased with the previous change to a 90 day ADR window. A period 180 days out is not necessary. A 90 day period benefits those who book trips on shorter notice.
A 180 day ADR period will increase the flaws in the ADR system:
1) People will cancel the trip but not the ADR's.
2) People will forget that ADR's were made.
3)People will never book the trip, but again not cancel the "just in case" adr's.
4) The probability of changes increases in a 180 day period- park hours, restaurant closures, cancelled trips, modified trip dates, etc.
The online booking option makes abuses much easier. It is critical that Disney take steps to prevent these abuses. It is unclear what checks & balances are currently in place for the online system.
I would tier the ADR periods. For example, if it must be 180 days, then a valid reservation and confirmation number should be required. Perhaps 90 days for FL passholders not staying over at a Disney resort. For off-site guests, there should be a maximum ADR window of 60 days.
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Originally Posted by Stickey
I would tier the ADR periods. For example, if it must be 180 days, then a valid reservation and confirmation number should be required. Perhaps 90 days for FL passholders not staying over at a Disney resort. For off-site guests, there should be a maximum ADR window of 60 days.
I was trying to find a polite way of saying this . . . as not to offend those of you that stay off site. But I agree with Stickey. My first instinct (as a way to prevent double bookings etc.) is that Disney should require a reservation number when booking ADRs. I know that excludes others, but perhaps that would simply be a perk to stay on property. I like the idea of the tier system, that way everyone gets a chance to book their ADRs in due time.
Sarah
"When you wish upon a star, makes no difference who you are,when you wish upon a star your dreams, come TRUE"
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