Storybook Circus Opening Date and Snow White's Scary Adventures Closing Date

[joonyer]

I think the 7D Mine Train, from photos and diagrams that I've seen, won't have anywhere near the speed or "thrills" of even the Barnstormer, but I still think it will be innovative and fun. The proof will be in the pudding, of course, but I agree there's no way it would rate as a "E" ticket attraction. If BTMRR and Space Mountain are "E"s, then Barnstormer would be no better than a "C" or maybe C+. Thrills alone don't make an attraction an "E" level attraction I know, so I'm hoping the new technology of the Mine Train will give it a boost as a new type of attraction. How good it will be will depend a lot on what you see from the cars, (scenes and theming) and not just the physical sensations of the cars and track.

[DizneyFreak2002]

I think the 7D Mine Train, from photos and diagrams that I've seen, won't have anywhere near the speed or "thrills" of even the Barnstormer, but I still think it will be innovative and fun. The proof will be in the pudding, of course, but I agree there's no way it would rate as a "E" ticket attraction. If BTMRR and Space Mountain are "E"s, then Barnstormer would be no better than a "C" or maybe C+. Thrills alone don't make an attraction an "E" level attraction I know, so I'm hoping the new technology of the Mine Train will give it a boost as a new type of attraction. How good it will be will depend a lot on what you see from the cars, (scenes and theming) and not just the physical sensations of the cars and track.

You should get a view of the new areas of Fantasyland and not much more... Disney is being very loose with what they consider show scenes for this ride because it lacks any real ones...

They can't let it go too fast because they have to put kids on it... There can't be much in the way of any real drops or swaying of the cars for the same reason... When it comes down to it, it may be a tad better than Barnstormer... But not much more...

[Bethanymouse]

Call me "old" but I miss the days of characters roaming the park. All these meet and greets take the fun out of it....

Then again, I dont have kids yet....maybe that makes a difference?

[Aurora]

Call me "old" but I miss the days of characters roaming the park. All these meet and greets take the fun out of it....

Then again, I dont have kids yet....maybe that makes a difference?

There are still some minor characters that are out and about, but the major ones are meet and greets, because of the bottlenecks they create and because people don't just get pics anymore -- they get autographs too, which creates more waits. Also people like seeing their favorites and are disappointed when they don't get to.

I totally agree it takes some of the fun and "magic" out of spontaneously seeing someone you didn't expect. But it doesn't seem that you can find much spontaneity at Disney anymore.

The point that bugs me is that out of all the expansion we get not one E ticket. Not one.

I'm not at all concerned about not having an E-ticket ride. I will reserve judgment about the two NEW rides until after I experience them.

The bigger picture is that looks to me like they are trying to create a more immersive experience, not just put in more rides. That area of Fantasyland was due for a 21st Century upgrade, and people FOR YEARS have complained about dark rides like SWSA being outdated (I don't agree, but that's another story). Yeah, they could have put in another attraction there, but it doesn't mean they won't ever.

I'm really looking forward to another "land" to experience in the Magic Kingdom for the first time in many years.

[AgentC]

The bigger picture is that looks to me like they are trying to create a more immersive experience, not just put in more rides. That area of Fantasyland was due for a 21st Century upgrade, and people FOR YEARS have complained about dark rides like SWSA being outdated (I don't agree, but that's another story). Yeah, they could have put in another attraction there, but it doesn't mean they won't ever.

I'm really looking forward to another "land" to experience in the Magic Kingdom for the first time in many years.

I think I'm with Aurora here.

I went on SWSAfor the last time last night. I have fond memories of being terrified on that ride at 6. I still enjoy riding it but I can understand why it feels dated to some especially for someone visiting for the first time who doesn't have the nostalgic feelings that many of us have.

I do wish they were keeping it open longer since the meet and greet won't be opening for quite some time but I can understand why they are putting it there.

To me, the mine train is the replacement for SWSA. It is not going in the same space, but it is replacing it. It wouldn't really make sense to try to redo SWSA into the mine train. The train needs a new location.

And I don't think we need more princess meet and greets but you have to admit it is pretty disjointed. You have assorted princesses meeting in Town Square Theater, Rapunzel next to City Hall, Merida in the fairy tale gardens and Ariel in Adventureland and Tiana in Liberty Square. Doesn't it make sense to have them in a central location for most of the princesses and shouldn't that location be Fantasyland?

And I know it is not what some would like, but my children are so excited for the Casey Jr Splash Zone. We could see them testing it last night when we rode Dumbo. After we got off , they went over and pressed their faces against the screens to watch it. They wanted to sneak in.

[DizneyFreak2002]

And I don't think we need more princess meet and greets but you have to admit it is pretty disjointed. You have assorted princesses meeting in Town Square Theater, Rapunzel next to City Hall, Merida in the fairy tale gardens and Ariel in Adventureland and Tiana in Liberty Square. Doesn't it make sense to have them in a central location for most of the princesses and shouldn't that location be Fantasyland?

I have made this argument (not a fighting argument, but, maybe more like a proposal argument if that makes sense) regarding these princess meet and greets... here is how I said they should do it:

Cinderella meets at Cinderella Castle

Aurora meets by one of the coves at Cinderella Castle (or aother idea was to make the Snow White ride into a Sleeping Beauty ride and add a meet and greet there, like they are doing over at Pooh)

Ariel has her own in Ariel's Grotto

Belle has her own at Maurice's Cottage/Beast's Castle

Tiana can stay at Liberty Belle (why not? The theme fits perfect with the river boat)

Rapunzel gets her meet and greet at the new Tangled theme section across from Peter Pan

Snow White can meet at the dwarfs cottage...

Am I missing anyone? Jasmin can stay in Adventureland (loose theme I know)

So, they can be spread out instead of losing a ride... I mean, I understand why they are doing it, but it is really not necessary...

And I know it is not what some would like, but my children are so excited for the Casey Jr Splash Zone. We could see them testing it last night when we rode Dumbo. After we got off , they went over and pressed their faces against the screens to watch it. They wanted to sneak in.

The pictures I have seen of the construction area make Casey Jr look pretty neat for the kids.. I'm sure the play area will be popular with the children and parents who want a break and want their kids to blow off some of that pent up energy... Should be a cute addition...

[AgentC]

So, they can be spread out instead of losing a ride... I mean, I understand why they are doing it, but it is really not necessary...

I am not going to disagree with you. The spread out meet n greets don't bother me, but since we are Florida residents, passholders and visit frequently, I'm not sure my pattern is what holds for the majority of Disney visitors. It does seem like they are trying to make the infrequent visitors happy. I know people who don't want to "run all over the park" for meet n greets and it does make it hard to get them all if you really want to. For me, there is always next time.

The pictures I have seen of the construction area make Casey Jr look pretty neat for the kids.. I'm sure the play area will be popular with the children and parents who want a break and want their kids to blow off some of that pent up energy... Should be a cute addition...

Definitely for me. I know lots of people thought the Pooh Playground was a waste of space but my kids loved it. Last night they didn't want to ride Pooh but they played in the interactive queue for quite awhile.