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*It seems as though Sherri herself responded as I was formulating my own thoughts with a similar answer
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SBETigg
Out-classed opponents. Hmmm. That would be the opposite of your opinion, of course.
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Ian
I'm sorry ... I'm very confused. How is that the opposite of my opinion?? ![Confused](images/smilies/confused2.gif)
Let me try to answer (although this is sometimes the worst thing you can do on a message board!)
Sherri is referring to you calling the The Patriots organization/Belichick classless. However when I read that article, I took out-classed to mean that the other teams aren't in the Patriots class- Pats are in a league of their own so to speak. I don't think he meant that the Patriots are a classier organization than the other teams they played, because it doesn't fit with the rest of the article. The uses of the word aren't necessarily interchangeable.
Outclassed: decisively surpassed by something else so as to appear to be of a lower class
Classy: of high class, rank, or grade; stylish; admirably smart; elegant.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SBETigg
That the Patriots are out-classing their opponents? You said you feel they are lacking class. Outclassing their opponents would mean the Patriots have more class, the opposite of your reaction. ![Smile](images/smilies/smile3.gif) No worries. I believe he meant outplaying them, not necessarily a statement on class. I was enjoying the word choice, just having fun. ![Wink](images/smilies/winky.gif)
Ahh ... gotcha ...
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I am in no way, shape or form an Eagles fan, but I will be pulling for them with all my might next week.
No one will ever convince me that the Patriots aren't running up the score this season. It's disgusting.
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Bills have the ball on their side of the field with 10 seconds left and after kneeing the ball I believe the Patriots take a time out when they are up by 28 or something like that. What would have been funny if the Bills would have completed the Hail Mary on the next play.
I'm still going to pull for the 0-14 Dolphins to pull the ultimate upset and beat the 14-0 Pats in Week 16
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Okay, enough. I really hated watching yesterday's game. It just felt wrong. I really hate to say you all were right, but I'm beginning to agree that the Patriots need to tone it down a bit. You know it pains me to admit it.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Melanears
No one will ever convince me that the Patriots aren't running up the score this season. It's disgusting.
Yep. Last night's game might have been the worst example of it, too.
If the Pats do win the Super Bowl, they're going to be met with a deafening silence.
They may win every game, but at the end of the season they'll still be a classless bunch of losers.
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I turned the game off in disgust so much for TV ratings with this flex game ![Roll Eyes](images/smilies/rolleyes2.gif)
I donm't think asnybody on the planet enjoyed watching that game and to think they bump the Jets/Steelers game in favor of that mess
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I missed the game (family function) but I am guessing from the posts this morning, that there was no real reason to watch the Pats play. I feel bad that there is such a level of disgust for them as this is really the first year I have developed much of an interest in football in general and the Patriots in particular. And there I was 3 weeks ago proudly wearing my Patriots sweatshirt at Disney. ![Blush](images/smilies/blush.gif)
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JPL
I turned the game off in disgust so much for TV ratings with this flex game
I don't think asnybody on the planet enjoyed watching that game and to think they bump the Jets/Steelers game in favor of that mess ![Shake Head](images/smilies/shakehead.gif)
I agree that Steelers / Jets game was a heck of a game. My wife (Steelers fan) was disappointed but being a Browns fan myself our exciting win yesterday brought the Browns within one game of first place.
The Patriots continue to prove what they are. I wonder what they will say if Brady gets hurt "accidentally" when they try to run up the score.
They may win every game, but at the end of the season they'll still be a classless bunch of losers.
Sorry, but my thoughts exactly. What are we teaching our children when we show them winning is everything. Lack of class and disrespect are the hallmark of Patriots football. Just look at Mike Vrabel's disrespect in calling Don Shula an "old, washed up coach" when Don Shula "dares" question the tarnishing of the Patriots possible undefeated season.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Donald A
Just look at Mike Vrabel's disrespect in calling Don Shula an "old, washed up coach" when Don Shula "dares" question the tarnishing of the Patriots possible undefeated season.
As far as I'm concerned Mike Vrabel is old and washed up ... but that's another story.
And in my mind, there's no "question" about it ... this season is tarnished. All these records or whatever they're going to come out of this season with? To me they're no more valid than any of Barry Bonds' records. I won't pay the slightest bit of attention to them when people talk about them in the future. To me, it will be like they never even happened.
Why? Because they shouldn't be happening!!! Example ... the Pats were up by THIRTY-FOUR POINTS heading into the fourth quarter of last night's game. Yet, there was Brady ... in there slinging the ball around. He had no business being in there with the score that lopsided and no business throwing the ball. Ergo, those stats should never have been recorded, ergo I will be ignoring them.
And yeah, that whole Shula thing, that was obviously tone from the top. Rudeness, classlessness, and arrogant behavior is the rule of thumb for the Hooded Grey Sweatshirted One.
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I'll almost afraid to wear my Patriots shirt next week when I am in WDW on Sunday...
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Nah Jeri Lyn, wear it. I will when I am back there in January.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jeri Lynn
I'll almost afraid to wear my Patriots shirt next week when I am in WDW on Sunday...
Wear your colors proudly. Remember, just because someone has a problem with the Pats this season doesn't mean they have a problem with fans. The only time I rib a stranger for wearing something is if my team is playing them (and it's usually good-natured)
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Yes, wear your Pats clothing proudly. My kids wore the Pats jerseys to school this morning and I have my Pats hoodie on. Proud to be a Pats and a Red Sox Fan!!
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by RedSoxFan
Yes, wear your Pats clothing proudly. My kids wore the Pats jerseys to school this morning and I have my Pats hoodie on. Proud to be a Pats and a Red Sox Fan!!
The issue is not about the Pats fans it is about the Pats organization. I heard a story about the Boston fans claping for the Cleveland Indians after beating them this past ALCS because of the effort and excitement the Indians demonstrated, I am not sure this happened. However, I would like to think that it was the fans showing the class that they have.
I have always said that I do feel sorry for the fans of the Pats that are hurt by the actions of the Pats organization. Even in this thread, people are talking about being ashamed to wear their Pats clothing. It is a natural feeling to like your local team, after all, as a fan you have no part in running it. You should wear your team's clothing with pride.
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They are not running up the score, they just knew my fantasy team was being beat and that I owned Randy Moss, and needed some fantasy points.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JPL
I turned the game off in disgust so much for TV ratings with this flex game
I donm't think asnybody on the planet enjoyed watching that game and to think they bump the Jets/Steelers game in favor of that mess ![Shake Head](images/smilies/shakehead.gif)
well i enjoyed watching the game last night. they are just playing the sport they love - football and im not ashamed of being a patriot fan because its not there fault they get the ball so many times i mean its turnover or 3 and out when pats defense is on the field. i mean these people are getting paid to stop the other team and win it all. i mean i dont see how this is running the score up when thats nothing compared to college level and alot of this is due to the fact at college nad pro level they pit a really good team agaisnt a struggling team all the time. i wear my colors proudly every sunday and monday even if they lose
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I don't always agree with the leadership and Brady, though talented, has never been a personal favorite of mine. But I still love and support my team. I'll always adore Tedy Bruschi. It just takes away some of the fun to see them dominating so much. The Colts game was fantastic because it was close and had me on edge.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by battlefield2freak
i mean i dont see how this is running the score up when thats nothing compared to college level and alot of this is due to the fact at college nad pro level they pit a really good team agaisnt a struggling team all the time.
You can't compare College and Pro as it has been discussed earlier in this thread since Point differential make up a part of the BCS ranking and bowl games mean big money for colleges to fund their programs.
Having Brady in the Game throwing passes in the fourth during a blowout is running up the score any way you slice it. He should have been resting on the bench and they should have had second and third string players in the game gaining valuable experience.
From an entertainment stand point last nights game had Zero entertainment value. I know many loyal watchers of Sunday football who are football fans not just fans of a particular team turned off the game.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JPL
You can't compare College and Pro as it has been discussed earlier in this thread since Point differential make up a part of the BCS ranking and bowl games mean big money for colleges to fund their programs.
Having Brady in the Game throwing passes in the fourth during a blowout is running up the score any way you slice it. He should have been resting on the bench and they should have had second and third string players in the game gaining valuable experience.
From an entertainment stand point last nights game had Zero entertainment value. I know many loyal watchers of Sunday football who are football fans not just fans of a particular team turned off the game.
ok well sorry i dont read the other 3 or 4 pages.
and brady, moss, and marroney was benched in the fourth so you cant really say thats the cause for running the score up by having them in during the fourth. and this is an excerpt from the NFL artcicle:
"Coach says he puts you out there to score when you touch it," Brady said. "He doesn't put you out there to punt."
and i who played football for 4 years for my high school (but declined scholarship) believe in that very statement and i love that kind of talk from a coach because thats how you win and i think any other coach or player would have to agree with me
after reading the article a little more i saw this: Belichick declined to go for a fourth-and-inches from the Buffalo 30 with 3:56 left, choosing to punt instead.
"I have no problem with that," Jauron said of the earlier fourth-down tries. "It's our job to stop it."
see that just backs up my statement that its the other teams job to stop the other team
i didnt turn my TV off just because the patriots were playing at thetop of there game i watched it because there was entertainment value in it for me.
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