Disney Investigating Websites Selling Walt Disney World Dining Reservations To Guests

I'm not saying it is right, but as long as they have a system like this, there will always be an opportunity for something like this.

Remember the stories about people bringing in special needs folks just to get preferences? Or folks who use scooters just to get in the front, etc.

If they have reservations at all, they'll have systems like this. Disney won't do away with reservations, so...

"There’s even a concierge level where they will guarantee you get the reservation because they don’t transfer it. In this case, they will actually hand over the My Disney Experience (MDE) account, made in a fake name, to the customer, and give them control of the reservation."

The end to using this method of abusing the system would be to ask us all to show a picture ID with the reservation name. I know it would be a pain, but I for one would be more than glad to do it rather than not get an ADR due to this practice.

I don't want to show more ID for anything. Let's not make it more difficult for anything. I'd rather do away w/ the reservation system as whole. ALong w/ FP+. But, I doubt that'll happen.

Yep, it's crazy, and Disney Orlando has created a monster. All of this has taken a magical vacation to a wonderful carefree place and made it... well, just plain work. That's why after this next trip, we are focusing on Disneyland. We live in the middle anyway, and DHS is going to be a non-park in for at least two or three years.. Yep, it's time to head west!

I recently read about this. I can't say I was surprised, but I am completely disgusted. What a lowlife way to make money. There must be a way for Disney to block them, or at least make it difficult enough to not be worth it.

Dulcee;2468944 wrote: I hope Disney squashes them.

Well said! Me too!

But something everyone must keep in mind. No matter how low and back-handed and unethical this seems to most of us, they clearly have a base of customers buying their service - else they wouldn't remain in business. It is very disheartening to think there are so many people out there who are willing to pay such a fee for a reservation - and for that, Disney is to blame for creating such a system. It'll be interesting to see how Disney reacts to counter this company's business.

ThanxForNoticin;2469126 wrote: But something everyone must keep in mind. No matter how low and back-handed and unethical this seems to most of us, they clearly have a base of customers buying their service - else they wouldn't remain in business. It is very disheartening to think there are so many people out there who are willing to pay such a fee for a reservation - and for that, Disney is to blame for creating such a system. It'll be interesting to see how Disney reacts to counter this company's business.

I fear Disney will react by simply taking advantage of people's willingness to pay and begin charging $15 per ADR.

I agree with the idea of showing ID, along with a waiting period between cancellation and being available again. It's completely random if you hit the right time for a cancelled reservation, so make it not work for the low-lifes.

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ThanxForNoticin;2469126 wrote: But something everyone must keep in mind. No matter how low and back-handed and unethical this seems to most of us, they clearly have a base of customers buying their service - else they wouldn't remain in business. It is very disheartening to think there are so many people out there who are willing to pay such a fee for a reservation - and for that, Disney is to blame for creating such a system. It'll be interesting to see how Disney reacts to counter this company's business.

I do wonder if they've come up w/ a FP+ cheat.

I know that someone will call me an old fogey for this opinion, but I wish they'd get rid of ADR and FP in any iteration. Go back to the days of same day dining reservations (maybe next day if you're staying onsite) and having people stand in line. Good grief. It is more work to go on "vacation" than I'm willing to spend. Main reason we haven't been in a few years and have no desire to go back anytime soon. Disneyland maybe. WDW not on the radar.

Wayne;2469187 wrote: I know that someone will call me an old fogey for this opinion, but I wish they'd get rid of ADR and FP in any iteration. Go back to the days of same day dining reservations (maybe next day if you're staying onsite) and having people stand in line. Good grief. It is more work to go on "vacation" than I'm willing to spend. Main reason we haven't been in a few years and have no desire to go back anytime soon. Disneyland maybe. WDW not on the radar.

Disneyland is being infected as well. I'm with you. I could go for the old FP, but would go for it all going away.

texas211;2469201 wrote: Disneyland is being infected as well.

In what way?

Interesting conversation, I don't know if this will affect me since my next trip will be Jan of 2017. But if its too much trouble to get dinner reservations we will go offsite to eat. So if Disney wants my dollars they better make sure I can get a reservation. Otherwise I'll be spending more time at Universal or maybe someone could suggest a really good seafood restaurant. :thedolls:

It's a vacation and a vacation should be relaxing. However it's a Disney vacation and more often than not you need a vacation from your vacation after a Disney stay.

For most a Disney vacation isn't lying by the pool all day sipping cocktails. However it's really not that much different than if you were traveling a big city like London or NYC or a national park like the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone. You'll probably be planning for sites to see, shows, tours and meals. Yes some down time is good too, but you want to accomplish "the stuff" that interests you or that friends have recommended.

Are ADRs or FP+ perfect? Heck no, but they do attempt to offer the ability to accomplish "the stuff" you want to experience on your vacation. Overall the FP+ system is an improvement on the old paper tickets, but it would be great if they could offer you more options across WDW. I would be nice not to have to say which park you want to visit at which time 45 days out. However I can only imagine it's only going to get better with time.

Disney created the problem but it's essentially the same as the ticket brokers who buy up all the tickets to popular sporting events and concerts etc., if there is a demand for something, there will be individuals looking to exploit and provide the supply. This whole thing stems from the online reservation system as it offers a plethora of ways to bypass any responsibility.