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(@SBETigg)
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Background: We are GF fans who would love GFV to be our home resort. We won't be financing. GFV doesn't seem to be the most cost effective decision when buying points and we won't be disappointed if we buy at BLT or AKL and end up staying there now and then. We plan to use our points to stay at Disney resorts, mostly at WDW.

Questions:

Buying Direct vs Buying Resale. It seems like getting more points for the money in buying a resale makes more sense, even if we change our home resort to one with a better per point value than GFV. What is the main benefit to buying direct from Disney? Will we be missing out on much if we go with a resale?

Has anyone had much trouble booking GFV at the 7 month mark for March, April or October (the months we travel most)?

Use year: Is it important to buy resales in the same use year? If we combine resale offers from the same resort to get the amount of points we need, does it all combine into one account for reservations/banking/borrowing, or is it like dealing with two or three separate accounts? Am I making sense? Like, if we buy two resales for AKL at 200 points each, does it work like having 400 points? Or do I have to treat them as separate reservations?

Thanks for any guidance, DVC friends.


Sherri
Next: Aulani Celebration 10/2018 (50th)
Past Stays: Contemporary, GF, Poly, BC, POP, POR, Dolphin, AKL Kidani, BLT
1990 August Honeymoon- GF
Delighted Disney Return Guest since 1981, DVC (BLT) since 2014

 
Posted : September 22, 2014 8:43 pm
(@vwl-mom)
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If you're buying multiple contracts through resale, keeping the same use year is a big plus. With one use year all your points will be in one account, much easier to manage. With difference use years you will have different accounts. You are allowed one transfer per year, either in or out so moving points becomes more difficult.

Availability at the 7 month for VGF depends on the size and length of accommodations you are looking for, also how flexible you are with your dates. We've not been able to stay there yet but this may be easier once the Poly villas open.

If you're only looking to use your points for Disney then resale isn't a bad option. If you looking to pickup VGF on the resale market there some available.

I'm of the school of thought that sides with buy where you want to stay. Our first two contracts were through Disney because we wanted VWL and nothing was available resale.

Good luck in your decision.


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Posted : September 22, 2014 9:18 pm
(@Aurora)
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I can't help you with your second and third questions, but let me try with the first.

If you buy through Disney, you get the most flexibility in using those points outside the Vacation Club hotels. You can use them for Disney cruises, Adventures by Disney vacations, Disney hotels that are not DVC (called the Concierge Collection), and for exchanging for outside timeshares RCI, Club Intrawest and Club Cordial. There is general agreement that using your points this way isn't the most economical, but we've used them for exchanges because we like the flexibility.

If you buy resale, you cannot use the points for the non-DVC Disney hotels, cruises or Adventures by Disney. You can, however still use the points to trade with the outside timeshares (RCI, etc.).

Another thing to consider is the number of years left on the contracts for each resort. GFV expires in 2064. BLT contracts expire in 2060, AKL in 2057, etc. There are lots of resales for the latter two; right now if you wanted GFV you almost must buy through Disney. (Very little on the resale market right now for GFV, but that will change with time).

Good luck with your decision!


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Posted : September 22, 2014 9:33 pm
faline
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As many have said here, buy where you want to stay. The Grand Floridian Villas are not a huge property so availability is limited and this location is quite popular. I thought I might not have too hard a time booking just 1-2 nights there in October but had to wait list as nothing - regardless of view was available at the 7 month mark for a studio for 2 nights.


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Posted : September 23, 2014 7:50 am
(@Mrs Bus Driver)
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If you have your heart set on staying at GF and plan to go during summer or Christmas, then you should buy at GF. Resales are cheaper and if you don't plan to use your points for anything besides Disney resorts then that would be the way to go.

If you want the most bang for your buck as others have said you need to be more flexible. Using myself as an example. I bought VB at $43 a point. I am retired and can go off season and be flexible about my dates. Also I am not picky about the resort. For example on my next trip the family would like to stay at BWV but are willing to settle for OKW if we can't get what we want and there is always the option of wait listing. But that is just me I have time to play around with this. :mickey:


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Posted : September 23, 2014 8:07 am
(@mickeysgirl)
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Congratulations!!

I am of the buy where you want to stay camp. We have never had an issue staying at our home resort in the kind of room that we want to. If you want to stay at the Grand Floridian, I think you should buy at the Grand Floridian.


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Posted : September 23, 2014 9:12 am
(@disneymom15)
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I agree, buy where you want to stay. We've bought direct and resale. My opinion, resale is the way to go. I have seen a few VGF on the market at the Timeshare Store. I recommend you contact the Timeshare store, let them know what you're interested in. We've on their email list and get updates all the time.
We own at BLT and absolutely love it there, you won't go wrong if you decide to purchase there.


Jodie

 
Posted : September 23, 2014 9:24 am
(@hammer)
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Hi, Sherri :wave:!

As I have mentioned to you before, I am not in the "buy where you want to stay" camp. I feel that only works if you plan to book using the 11 month mark, which I don't do. It is hard enough to book at 7 months, as my or my sister's work schedule can change. I bought DVC to have the roomier accommodations. Once my Mom started to travel with my sister and I, having more room for her to maneuver her wheelchair was even more important, so we book 2 bedroom villas.

I also think it does matter what size of accommodations you want plays a role in your success at the 7 month window. Even when it is only 2 of us, we book a 1 bedroom so we each have our own space. I think if I wanted studio accommodations, it would be more difficult. But I like multiple resorts, so my heart is not set on 1 place. We did get GFV at the 7 month mark and will be there in less than 2 weeks :muscles:!

I also bought via resale. As I said, my heart wasn't set on one location, so I looked at resale with price and maintenance dues per point being the deciding factors. I have 2 contracts, but the same use year; one at SSR and the other at OKW. The second contract was added when Mom started to travel with us and we wanted larger accommodations (so Mom could have her own room and bathroom).


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Posted : September 23, 2014 10:22 am
(@SBETigg)
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It's a lot to consider. My husband isn't entirely on board yet, so I'm gathering my thoughts to present to him and win him over. Your opinions are really helping me so thanks all!

He knows I want to do this, and he's willing to consider it now. His issue is that he wants to travel to other places and doesn't want to spend all of our time at WDW. My main argument in favor of it is that we do end up going to Disney every year or every other year, which will work well with banking and borrowing and still allow us to go other places between Disney visits-- not to mention Vero Beach, Aulani... there are other locations besides WDW.

We're at the point where we really need the larger accommodations of DVC. The kids are adults. They don't always come with us, but we need space when and if they do, and if they bring partners. I'm happy to stay at other resorts, but husband is more inclined to be all GF all the time. So it's either buying fewer VGF points for now and eventually adding on or resale with maybe a different resort, where I can get more points for less but might not always get to stay VGF. Decisions, decisions. A happy spot to be in, though. It's fun to think of the possibilities. Thanks again for helping me think it all over!


Sherri
Next: Aulani Celebration 10/2018 (50th)
Past Stays: Contemporary, GF, Poly, BC, POP, POR, Dolphin, AKL Kidani, BLT
1990 August Honeymoon- GF
Delighted Disney Return Guest since 1981, DVC (BLT) since 2014

 
Posted : September 23, 2014 11:55 am
(@wildernesslady)
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Welcome Home! You will love it. Our home Is VWL and we have enjoyed staying there; as well as, all the other DVC resorts.

Have fun planning.


 
Posted : September 23, 2014 2:58 pm
(@TheDuckRocks)
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My only 2 thoughts on this are;
1) I wish we had purchased earlier.
2) If you buy multiple contracts be sure they all have the same use year month.


KAY

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First trip to WDW - Dec, 2005
Last visit to Disneyland - 2014
First trip to Disneyland - 1955

 
Posted : September 24, 2014 9:59 am
(@rjmdds)
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We just became members one month ago :yay::yay:and we chose the Villas at the GF as our home resort. It is truly our favorite place to stay and we would be devastated if we had to book at 7 months and were unable to get into it. Despite the price being higher, to us it was worth it simply for the ability to ensure ourselves getting in there at 11 months. It is a personal decision and you have to consider so many factors that have already been mentioned. I think if we didn't choose the GF as our home, we would have always 2nd guessed that decision.


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Posted : September 24, 2014 11:04 am
(@DizneyRox)
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Remember, even booking at 11 months doesn't guarantee you get what you want/need. It helps... A LOT... but isn't a guarantee. That's why I suggest making sure that you plan accordingly. Getting a few more points than you actually need will help for those times that you may have to travel at a different time or get better accomodations. Just a few points, when you can bank and borrow can open up a whole range of possibilities.

However, GFV is one expensive location, so you may be able to 'downgrade' to a different location for significantly less points. It's just something to keep in mind.


 
Posted : September 24, 2014 12:30 pm
(@baldburke)
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We're in the process of buying resale. Our intent is to use it at Disney properties so we aren't too concerned about the non-Disney offerings. I don't know the details, but in talking to friends I've heard you are better off paying cash for Disney cruises because the point structure isn't favorable?


Beth & David

09/82 Treehouse Villas, 06/86 BVP, 10/95 CBR, 10/99 DI, 08/03 PORS, 10/05 POP, 11/06 AKL, 09/09 POLY, 10/10 Wonder, 05/11 Dream/PORS, 08/13 POLY, 11/13 GF, 04/15 POLY, 11/15 BLT, 11/16 Aulani, 03/17 BLT, 08/18 BLT, 07/19 AKL, 06/21 BLT

 
Posted : September 24, 2014 12:45 pm
(@SBETigg)
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baldburke;2434979 wrote: I don't know the details, but in talking to friends I've heard you are better off paying cash for Disney cruises because the point structure isn't favorable?

Yes, I've looked at the Disney Collections and Adventures by Disney, and I can't even imagine I would use points for those. If I opted to cruise, I wouldn't even choose a Disney cruise. So those options are not important to me, I think.

You all have come up with some great points that are really helping me weigh all options. I'm so grateful to have your insights. Thanks again!


Sherri
Next: Aulani Celebration 10/2018 (50th)
Past Stays: Contemporary, GF, Poly, BC, POP, POR, Dolphin, AKL Kidani, BLT
1990 August Honeymoon- GF
Delighted Disney Return Guest since 1981, DVC (BLT) since 2014

 
Posted : September 24, 2014 2:25 pm
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