What would need to happen before you returned to the parks?
I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.
I voted "Nothing" simply because I believe that Disney will not open the park(s) without taking every precaution imaginable to keep them clean and safe for their visitors. That said, I would trust the visitors less than Disney itself, so that would be my concern.
So far, I have heard of no problems with the 'phased' opening going on at Shanghai Disneyland, so expect that these same measures will be taken at the other Disney parks as well. (Of course, can you take any information coming out of China at face value?)
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Disney itself is as much the enemy in this whole charade. As owner of ABC their news division spews misinformation and slanted views to the general public on a daily basis. Governors are trampling our Constitution. Lawyers will make out fabulously once the dust settles from COVID-19.
Beth & David
09/82 Treehouse Villas, 06/86 BVP, 10/95 CBR, 10/99 DI, 08/03 PORS, 10/05 POP, 11/06 AKL, 09/09 POLY, 10/10 Wonder, 05/11 Dream/PORS, 08/13 POLY, 11/13 GF, 04/15 POLY, 11/15 BLT, 11/16 Aulani, 03/17 BLT, 08/18 BLT, 07/19 AKL, 06/21 BLT
I have faith that Disney will do what is best to keep their cast members and guests as safe as possible. They do not make decisions regarding the various parks easily. This is hurting their bottom line in a huge way
To Baldburke...so sad, soooo sad that you feel that this whole thing is a charade!!! I just hope no one dies in your family as they did in mine!!! And I can't wait to visit WDW later this year. I do plan to wear a mask while there to protect myself and others.
I wonder if we will ever see an effective vaccine. I hope we discover more about this virus, how best to prevent spread and how to treat those who do get sick. With that in mind, as we learn more, we can make risks low, such as ongoing physically distancing, wearing masks, etc. I wouldn't rush back to the parks day 1, but we went during the peak of H1N1 and stayed safe and healthy.
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baldburke;2527749 wrote: Disney itself is as much the enemy in this whole charade. As owner of ABC their news division spews misinformation and slanted views to the general public on a daily basis. Governors are trampling our Constitution. Lawyers will make out fabulously once the dust settles from COVID-19.
53,928 deaths in the U.S. alone. Charade? Really? The measures taken by governors have saved lives. There are all sorts of things we can't do in our state right now. It's frustrating and sad. But not a single thing I want to do is worth someone else's life. Not. One. Single. Thing.
Susanne
ibelieveindisneymagic;2527761 wrote: I wonder if we will ever see an effective vaccine.
Based on vaccinations for previous corona viruses, I think it is very likely. The thing about this type of virus is that mutations tend to be similar enough to the original that vaccines are effective for years.
Beth
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bleen3162;2527752 wrote: To Baldburke...so sad, soooo sad that you feel that this whole thing is a charade!!! I just hope no one dies in your family as they did in mine!!! And I can't wait to visit WDW later this year. I do plan to wear a mask while there to protect myself and others.
The disease is real. I have also seen the effects. The charade is the media. As Dr. Birx has stated, the US has the lowest mortality rate. We can't cheat the grim reaper. The US may have more "reported" deaths than over countries (cough, cough...China), as a percentage of the population we are very effective in our efforts to combat this disease.
What we are not very good at is recognizing the Constitutional rights of US citizens. States need to recommend to those that are sick, comprised or aged to limit exposure. Otherwise, let's re-open for business. I can go to Walmart but I can't go to church? Some states have liquor stores and parks open but others don't? Target can be open selling clothes and shoes but the stores in the mall can't? There is no logic to the whims of these governors and mayors that think they are omnipotent. The lawyers will be laughing when the dust settles here.
Beth & David
09/82 Treehouse Villas, 06/86 BVP, 10/95 CBR, 10/99 DI, 08/03 PORS, 10/05 POP, 11/06 AKL, 09/09 POLY, 10/10 Wonder, 05/11 Dream/PORS, 08/13 POLY, 11/13 GF, 04/15 POLY, 11/15 BLT, 11/16 Aulani, 03/17 BLT, 08/18 BLT, 07/19 AKL, 06/21 BLT
TheVBs;2527767 wrote: 53,928 deaths in the U.S. alone. Charade? Really? The measures taken by governors have saved lives. There are all sorts of things we can't do in our state right now. It's frustrating and sad. But not a single thing I want to do is worth someone else's life. Not. One. Single. Thing.
My point is not to be insensitive. 54k is a large number. Last year the US lost nearly 650k to heart disease and another 600k to cancer then another 170k to accidents. That's nearly 1.5M to the top three causes last year. As Dr. Birx has stated, the US mortality rate is very low as compared to other countries.
The problem in all of this is two fold. Governors and mayors taking away your Constitutional rights. And the media hyping this as if it is the biggest and longest on-going snow storm for them to fill up time. The media, ABC included, doesn't deliver news. They deliver editorial content that suits their agenda.
Beth & David
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[QUOTE=baldburke;2527777 As Dr. Birx has stated, the US has the lowest mortality rate.
The US does not have the lowest mortality rate, Canada and Germany have a rate mortality of 72 per million population, we have a rate 170 per million. You can search "live coronavirus statistics". Belgium has the highest rate at 622 per million. We happen to be 12th.
Also cancer and heart disease are not contagious.
Dave aka: Altair
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To Baldburke ....What about my Constructional right to stay safe and healthy? I am a health care worker and I feel that this virus will be a danger to all of us for a while and especially if governors allow states to open too soon. I really don't understand someone who would risk their health and that of others in the name of Constitutional rights. And by the way....the reason places like Target and Walmart can remain open is that they have pharmacys and sell groceries.
We've kind've strayed off the purpose of this thread. Would an administrator kindly close it?
I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.
Cinderelley;2527783 wrote: We've kind've strayed off the purpose of this thread. Would an administrator kindly close it?
Agreed! Moving on...
Beth & David
09/82 Treehouse Villas, 06/86 BVP, 10/95 CBR, 10/99 DI, 08/03 PORS, 10/05 POP, 11/06 AKL, 09/09 POLY, 10/10 Wonder, 05/11 Dream/PORS, 08/13 POLY, 11/13 GF, 04/15 POLY, 11/15 BLT, 11/16 Aulani, 03/17 BLT, 08/18 BLT, 07/19 AKL, 06/21 BLT
Not allowed to have an opinion these days either i guess...
I would return today if it was open but i am not going to go and pay the same price with all of the ridiculous restrictions that will be in place.
But that is my personal choice. I am also not worried about this "pandemic" just as i also don't worry too much about the flu, which kills on average 50k people a year in the US and 500k worldwide.
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