Florida Man Banned From Disney For Life

DizneyRox;2469551 wrote: Loads of articles about a man making a method lab comment to Disney security gets a lifetime ban from Disney properties. Reports are loaded with Dopey, Goofy, Grumpy, comments trying to make light of the comment, but really, who threatens to build a method lab in their room in jest!

I say, keep the ban, not something to kid about...

"Method" lab? Methamphetamine, or meth, not method.

You are correct, however, with your statement about the threat to build a meth lab in his room -- Who would do such a thing, and better yet, WHY?????

I don't know if the lifetime ban was overboard or not, but the man, and whoever was with him, should have been removed from the property for possible safety violations, and a report filed with local authorities.

When I first read this, I kind of thought Disney was blowing things out of proportion myself. However, on one of the other Disney boards, someone posted links to several recent occasions in which explosions or extremely dangerous situations arose from people making or attempting to make Meth in motel rooms. The poster went on to say that this kind of statement is something which the hotel/motel industry takes extremely seriously - similar to the talk of a bomb on an airplane.

Another poster said that if it was a true search by the police, as stated in the article, then it would have had to involve a warrant, in which probable cause would have had to be established. So, I think there is probably a little more to the story. Note that I am not a layer and am certainly not familiar with Florida law.

Believe me, I am not a mindless 'Disney can do no wrong' person, but perhaps they handled this correctly. I believe the guy can appeal the lifetime ban to Disney and that Disney has not considered the appeal yet. If it was just a stupid remark, then the ban can certainly be lifted.

Yes, there have been quite a few cases in Florida, including several in Kissimmee, where people have built meth labs in hotel rooms, a few of them resulting in explosions and all of them requiring complete evacuation of entire buildings. A search warrant would not be required if the police asked for and received permission from the occupant of the room.

As far as the "lifetime ban" goes, the trespass notices issued by police in Florida does not specify a specific length of time, hence making it "lifetime". The person affected can appeal to the courts to have the trespass notice quashed, since the notice is issued by the police, not Disney.

Again, thus far we only have this guy's version of what happened, which is very likely slanted to his own self-interest...

DonaldDuck1117;2469584 wrote: Total overreaction on Disney's part. They went and swept the room after the comment, which was clearly in jest, and found everything was clear. At that point you give him a stern talking to about how the company takes any matter like that seriously and tell him to knock it off. But a lifetime ban for all properties around the world? That's a bit much.

Indeed. This is like getting a tsunami when a rock falls into a lake. The reaction goes beyond what is required, but they can do it if they want to. Perhaps they imagine this sort of theatrical reaction will dissuade others from making an absurd comment like that, but it is surely so rare as to have little or no measurable impact whatsoever. EDIT to add... A process that allows the man to appeal the order, and explain/apologize/make restitution, is probably sufficient in this case. I now understand better that some of this was dictated by the police and Disney probably did exercise due caution when passing on the information.

A search warrant is not required if a threat to life reasonably exists. If they believe there is a meth lab in a room, and it is known that they have caused fires/explosions, they are legally able to enter the room. It is an exception to the 4th amendment, as long as their beliefs later pass judicial scrutiny.

TheVBs;2469634 wrote: No sympathy from me at all. Of all the things he could have said to indicate that he waited a ridiculously long time, that's what he chooses? I also suspect there's more to the story than he's telling. If WDW bounced this guy for life, I'm betting they had a very good reason.

I agree with you completely. And as this was done on his last night, heaven only knows what other nonsense he'd been up to his whole trip.

When I made my post above, I didn't realize they have actually been having problems with meth labs and fires and what not in the onsite resorts. That is just baffling. It blows my mind to find out that people would go to WDW and make meth in their room.

Considering that information, maybe they didn't overreact. People cooking meth in the resorts is a huge safety concern for other guests.

1DisneyNut;2469662 wrote: When I made my post above, I didn't realize they have actually been having problems with meth labs and fires and what not in the onsite resorts. That is just baffling. It blows my mind to find out that people would go to WDW and make meth in their room.

Considering that information, maybe they didn't overreact. People cooking meth in the resorts is a huge safety concern for other guests.

I don't think it has actually happened on Disney property yet, but it has happened in hotels in the area, as well as in other states. I have heard stories about this happening. I assume all the Disney CMs are trained to respond to certain verbal trigger phrases. The CM who reported this guy was likely simply following established security protocol.

I still say overboard, and a waste of real police time. Especially with all of the shenanigans that wdw does allow. Oh well, hopefully the guy will enjoy Universal and Sea World.

texas211;2469693 wrote: I still say overboard, and a waste of real police time. Especially with all of the shenanigans that wdw does allow. Oh well, hopefully the guy will enjoy Universal and Sea World.

Whoever handed this down (Disney or police) went way overboard, and if it's the police then they don't have the authority to ban someone for life from anything.

I have done the whole "stay an extra day" mess with Disney and it's no wonder this guy cracked.

Goofy4TheWorld;2469702 wrote: ... and if it's the police then they don't have the authority to ban someone for life from anything.

Actually, yes they do under Florida law. As I mentioned earlier, the trespass notices do not specify a length of time, thereby making them permanent. They can only be modified or cancelled by the courts.

It's a metaphorical turn of phrase. What reasonable person would think he meant it literally??

And okay, so let's say there have been meth labs exploding in Kissimmee-area hotel rooms and that alone merits more serious consideration; if this guy and fam are Disney nuts Disney can pull up his profile and see that he's staying there with his kids...and that he's stayed numerous times over several years (I'm assuming) and that he does not fit the profile of someone who comes to a Disney resort to build a meth lab.

Mendelson;2469732 wrote: It's a metaphorical turn of phrase. What reasonable person would think he meant it literally??

And okay, so let's say there have been meth labs exploding in Kissimmee-area hotel rooms and that alone merits more serious consideration; if this guy and fam are Disney nuts Disney can pull up his profile and see that he's staying there with his kids...and that he's stayed numerous times over several years (I'm assuming) and that he does not fit the profile of someone who comes to a Disney resort to build a meth lab.

You'd be surprised the things people will do with their children present. My husband is a police officer and the things he's seen done, in front of children, is pretty horrific.

If the guy is that upset about it take it to court and have it lifted, assuming you can find a judge who won't think you deserve it for being a moron.

Dulcee;2469749 wrote: You'd be surprised the things people will do with their children present. My husband is a police officer and the things he's seen done, in front of children, is pretty horrific.

If the guy is that upset about it take it to court and have it lifted, assuming you can find a judge who won't think you deserve it for being a moron.

He already is having it appealed and I'm sure in the end Disney will give him something free to make it up to him. People act like asses and always end up getting what they don't deserve

CaptSmee;2469777 wrote: People act like asses and always end up getting what they don't deserve

This applies in all directions, not just downward.

I doubt Disney will give him something free...all he appears to be asking for is to be allowed back in WDW, which, at the end of the day, is not "free" on his end and in fact benefits Disney financially.

Look, the guy may be a complete jerk, the but the response is ridiculous.