really? replacing an imaginative ride like Maelstrom with another ride ripped from a movie? I agree with previous comments here. This doesn't belong in World Showcase. How sad for Epcot's legacy.
Some of you guys make it sound like the Collisseum is being torn down so a new soccer stadium can be built.
yankeesfan123;2433705 wrote: Some of you guys make it sound like the Collisseum is being torn down so a new soccer stadium can be built.
At least it has allowed me to realize that my problem with this is all on me. I continued to be hopeful that Epcot still stood for something more than a revenue source. These things only have names because you've got to call it something. Not because the name has any meaning or purpose within it.
EricJ;2433710 wrote:
That's starting to sound a LOT like Norway's tourism board letting Disney do what it wants, as long as more Let It Goers want to go to the fjords to look for Elsa. We can expect no help from international pride.
It's like the old Wonder Twins from the Superfriends. Short-term thinkers activate!
EricJ;2433710 wrote:
They can do that at the Studios, but when they start confusing that with international diplomacy, Tom really needs to get his priorities in order.
(Unless he likes the movie too, if ya know what I mean... :rolleyes:)
No, please tell us, what DO you mean?
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yankeesfan123;2433705 wrote: Some of you guys make it sound like the Collisseum is being torn down so a new soccer stadium can be built.
I chuckled. Seriously!
At the end of the day they *are* a business and if it brings in more profit then good for them 
And for those of us that love it, it doesn't mean we don't care or don't know or have been brainwashed. We just don't mind change *shrug* And honestly with my children, having characters in the countries actually peeks their interest to learn more about the country.
EricJ;2433710 wrote:
They can do that at the Studios, but when they start confusing that with international diplomacy, Tom really needs to get his priorities in order.
(Unless he likes the movie too, if ya know what I mean... :rolleyes:)
:scratch head: You lost me on that. What does it mean?
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Personally, I hated 'Frozen' and found it one of the weakest of the Disney animated films. I think it's insulting to commercialize an educational and cultural attraction like Norway in World Showcase with this garbage. 'Frozen' is a fantasy, and any ride based on it should be in Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom....not in Epcot. I've always enjoyed Maelstrom exactly as it is, and now there will be one more beloved attraction gone and another that I'll simply by-pass in its place. Shame.
Buttercup;2433449 wrote: Ugh. World showcase is not supposed to be another fantasyland. It's supposed to teach you about other countries and give you authentic cultural experiences. NOT take you on a ride through a fictional land that slightly resembles something Norwegian.
Epcot has once again lost its direction and is becoming a mishmash of random weird stuff strung together.
It's so sad, given what it was supposed to be.
Oh look - ANOTHER M&G!! :shake:
I agree ~ sad.
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There are many rides prominently featuring Sound Tracks. There is pretty much singing all through out the Little Mermaid Ride, Phillarmagic is a story based on the music, The Lion King stage shows features the music and *gasp* live singing.
Disney would be foolish to not take advantage of the vocal talent associated with this movie. I'll say again - they haven't had this talented of singers since Jodi Benson. I doubt Disney is admitting anything about the story and more acknowledging the strength of the music as a whole.
To all who come to this place of joy, hope of enterprise and concepts of a future that promises new and exciting benefits for all. May EPCOT Center entertain, inform and inspire and above all, may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man's ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere in the world.
—E. Cardon Walker, October 24, 1982
They had a decent run, but Disney proved itself incapable of maintaining it. They've been unable to establish and maintain working relationships with foreign nations to keep World Showcase vibrant or expanding. They've been unable to maintain or create lasting relationships with industry to supply innovation for Future World. Worse than simply maintaining the status quo, Epcot has been receding over the past decade.
Frozen taking over the Maelstrom is not the problem. It is just another symptom of the problem.
Tekneek;2433755 wrote: To all who come to this place of joy, hope of enterprise and concepts of a future that promises new and exciting benefits for all. May EPCOT Center entertain, inform and inspire and above all, may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man's ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere in the world.
—E. Cardon Walker, October 24, 1982They had a decent run, but Disney proved itself incapable of maintaining it. They've been unable to establish and maintain working relationships with foreign nations to keep World Showcase vibrant or expanding. They've been unable to maintain or create lasting relationships with industry to supply innovation for Future World. Worse than simply maintaining the status quo, Epcot has been receding over the past decade.
Frozen taking over the Maelstrom is not the problem. It is just another symptom of the problem.
With as fast as technology changes I think it would be dang near impossible to stay ahead of it. Heck - my cell phone is out of date a mere 6 months after I purchase it. That is why I think you see the focus being more on "going green" as that is technology that is still be developed.
Septbride2002;2433754 wrote: :shake:
There are many rides prominently featuring Sound Tracks. There is pretty much singing all through out the Little Mermaid Ride, Phillarmagic is a story based on the music, The Lion King stage shows features the music and *gasp* live singing.
Disney would be foolish to not take advantage of the vocal talent associated with this movie. I'll say again - they haven't had this talented of singers since Jodi Benson. I doubt Disney is admitting anything about the story and more acknowledging the strength of the music as a whole.
But those rides aren't in Epcot. Most of us are saying that we don't have a problem with a Frozen ride, what we are lamenting is where it's being placed.
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TheVBs;2433721 wrote: No, please tell us, what DO you mean?
I may be a bit dense, but I don't understand either.
Teekneek, what is the correlation if he likes the movie?
Septbride2002;2433757 wrote: With as fast as technology changes I think it would be dang near impossible to stay ahead of it. Heck - my cell phone is out of date a mere 6 months after I purchase it. That is why I think you see the focus being more on "going green" as that is technology that is still be developed.
Now that is the truth!:blush:
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PirateLover;2433765 wrote: But those rides aren't in Epcot. Most of us are saying that we don't have a problem with a Frozen ride, what we are lamenting is where it's being placed.
EXACTLY! I think that's being lost in this thread.
PirateLover;2433765 wrote: But those rides aren't in Epcot. Most of us are saying that we don't have a problem with a Frozen ride, what we are lamenting is where it's being placed.
Exactly...the World Showcase was supposed to be all about the culture of that country. There are so many other places they could have put a Frozen attraction. What they did in Mexico and now Norway is a cop-out. A way to sell more Frozen stuff. Like Mexico, they are probably going to keep the "bones" of the ride and just slap on some frozen characters. I have nothing against the movie...I didn't see it...but IMO it is terrible placement.
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