Three Possible Side Effects of Ticket Price Change

RunDMV;2458595 wrote: If you say so.

Exactly. Fact is, there shouldn't have been backlash to the point there was even noise to be heard. The huge lines at Guest Services speaks for itself. It was rolled out too early from a company with a horrible tech history. And in no way do I believe it was just 2% who were unhappy. Many a vacation was affected and some even ruined. MM+, now that it's finally working as it should, is great. FP+ is horrible FOR ME. If it doesn't fit your vacationing style, it doesn't fit your vacationing style.

I love Disney, and I'll always love Disney. But it may be time to start cruising, and making visiting the international parks a priority, especially if this tiered ticket thing does happen to become a reality. Fortunately for Disney, they've got TONS of folks just willing to call, then plunk down whatever $$$ the reservations agent tells them for their most magical vacation on earth!

Melanie;2458599 wrote: Exactly. Fact is, there shouldn't have been backlash to the point there was even noise to be heard. The huge lines at Guest Services speaks for itself. It was rolled out too early from a company with a horrible tech history. And in no way do I believe it was just 2% who were unhappy. Many a vacation was affected and some even ruined. MM+, now that it's finally working as it should, is great. FP+ is horrible FOR ME. If it doesn't fit your vacationing style, it doesn't fit your vacationing style.

I love Disney, and I'll always love Disney. But it may be time to start cruising, and making visiting the international parks a priority, especially if this tiered ticket thing does happen to become a reality. Fortunately for Disney, they've got TONS of folks just willing to call, then plunk down whatever $$$ the reservations agent tells them for their most magical vacation on earth!

If you say so.....

manutd1;2458606 wrote: If you say so.....

Yep.

Melanie;2458607 wrote: Yep.

Classy.

Actually, this whole MM+ has NOT been met with such awesomeness fanfare like many Disney fans want to tout... It has been met with backlash... And no, not by a vocal minority online...

ADDING INFO: This tiered pricing has been seriously considered... Yes, it is a thing... Very serious consideration... Also, Disney is gauging reaction online to this survey leak and possible tiered pricing... So far, not good... Anyone's guess as to how fast this dies on someone's desk or how fast they implement it since it has received extremely bad PR???

More bad PR for WDW while every other theme park in Orlando (and Central Florida including Busch Gardens) this week received major press with new additions, one better than the other, and extremely positive PR...

I like the concept for 1 day ticket prices, for sure. MYW/multi-day tickets should maintain standard pricing, IMO, otherwise it will be both a nightmare to administrate and explain (they set a precedent for this by not charging you more for multi-day tickets despite the differences in 1-day park prices between MK and the rest - they don't sell you MK tickets and rest-of-WDW tickets in those).

Melanie;2458599 wrote:
I love Disney, and I'll always love Disney. But it may be time to start cruising, and making visiting the international parks a priority, especially if this tiered ticket thing does happen to become a reality. Fortunately for Disney, they've got TONS of folks just willing to call, then plunk down whatever $$$ the reservations agent tells them for their most magical vacation on earth!

Indeed. Disney will be fine no matter what they do, it seems. I don't think people should criticize anyone who finds the "new way" isn't a good fit for them and decides to do something else. Some people react like it is a personal insult for a person to not be dancing in pixie dust over everything Disney says and does.

conan617;2458542 wrote:
My guess is this will roll first to AP pricing first. Gold AP - no black outs, Silver AP - Xmas, 4th of July etc. black outs, Bronze AP - Admissions only on Tuesdays after a blue moon in an odd month only.

FL residents already have tiered tickets just like you're describing but with different names: Premium, Annual, Seasonal, Weekday Select, Epcot after 4. Most of us FL residents completely understand the concept behind this proposal. We just don't understand the logic (or lack thereof...) :confused:

Not a fan, but it wouldn't affect us at from a day to day thing - since we always go in July because kids are out of school. We'd have to pay the most expensive price.

I wonder if it would dampen the crowds a bit? (if they were to implement it).

DisneyGiant;2458668 wrote:
I wonder if it would dampen the crowds a bit? (if they were to implement it).

This could absolutely be the driving force behind a change like this.

Disneyland was having a huge problem with massive crowds due to too many annual passholders. They implemented a radical ticket price increase and reduced the availability of specific types of AP's for new purchase. Many people did not renew passes last year and there were even fewer new AP purchases. DL reported a decrease in attendance overall last year, for the first time in over a decade. This was an intentional move on their part to make it VERY expensive for locals to visit the parks during the high season, and it worked.

Because WDW doesn't have such a large local population, this type of ticketing system is setup to do the same thing...encourage people to visit during the "cheaper" days.

And, it might just work.

We all have been complaining about how crowded it always feels. Maybe this is the solution to that?

BrerGnat;2458675 wrote: This could absolutely be the driving force behind a change like this.
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We all have been complaining about how crowded it always feels. Maybe this is the solution to that?

Yes - maybe this will be a helpful factor for some..... We're fortunate to be able to afford an increase in the ticket prices - since we locked into room pricing via the DVC - that helps......

Only time will tell if they implement it.

Thanks for the info.

Food for thought on the "it is absurdly expensive' now comments...........

As best I can research, in 1973 the all inclusive ticket (admission and all rides) price for a day at the Magic Kingdom was approx. $15.00. Adjusted for inflation in todays Dollars... that was an admission price back then of just under the equivalent of $80.00 today.

So they just cracked $100 on a single day ticket on the Magic Kingdom.

Ticket prices for a single day have gone up about $20.00 in the Dollar-ettes that we use today. It would have cost $18.77 a day for admission in 1973 Dollars if they were charging the same rates they are now.

When you look at that with the reality of the 432% inflation that has happened since 1973..... and what has been improved and added in the park........ not too shabby.

best,

..................john

John - 15.00 to 18.77 is a 25% increase. Imagine if they did that in today's dollars. Not sure the argument you are using holds weight. 100 to next year at 125 per park would be huge.

Everything is relative. Telling my parents they would spend almost 4 bucks more a head per day on admission (not to mention the cost of everything else going up 25% in this hypothetical) would have been a big deal back then.

John;2458694 wrote: John - 15.00 to 18.77 is a 25% increase.

That viewpoint is a change in 1973 Dollars over the time period from 1973 to 2015. So yes... it represents an effective 25% increase in one day park admission....... over a time period of 42 years.

That would be the equivalent day admission rate back then in those Dollars if the price of admission was the same as it was today.

best,

................john

WiltonJohn;2458696 wrote: That viewpoint is a change in 1973 Dollars over the time period from 1973 to 2015. So yes... it represents an effective 25% increase in one day park admission....... over a time period of 42 years.

That would be the equivalent day admission rate back then in those Dollars if the price of admission was the same as it was today.

best,

................john

Uhhh...*no*.

1955 Opening-day adult ticket prices at Disneyland were $1.00 for park admission, plus anywhere from $.10 to $.35 for individual ride/attraction tickets. For a family of four, to enter the park, would be $4.00, plus, let's say 40 ride tickets at $.35 ("E" ticket rides?) each (10 for each family member), comes to $18.00 in 1955 U.S. dollars. Accounting for inflation, in 2015, according to the U.S. Department of Labor's inflation calculator, that same $18.00 would be $158.91 in 2015 - for four adult-priced tickets. At Walt Disney World, in 1971, the cost of admission for one adult was $3.50, and $4.50 for a 7-adventure ticket book - $8.00 total for one adult plus ride tickets, so, $32.00 for a family of four (not including meals/parking). In 2015, that number would be $186.94 - less than $200.00 for a family of four in the "same" U.S. dollars accounting for inflation. The $18.00 it cost for a family of four to enter Disneyland and buy ride tickets would have cost $27.20 in 1971, so there's not nearly as much disparity there (only about a $5.00 difference). The $109.00 it cost to enter the Magic Kingdom today at Walt Disney World would have cost $18.66 in 1971 (opening day) instead of $8.00 - it would *still* be cheaper in 1971 dollars by more than ten dollars per person, even having to buy your ride tickets.