Three Possible Side Effects of Ticket Price Change

BrerGnat;2459276 wrote: This change won't happen overnight (if it even happens, which is not even a certainty yet...not even close to a certainty in fact).

Ummmm..... you sure about that?

BrerGnat;2459276 wrote: But you already bought your tickets. This change won't happen overnight (if it even happens, which is not even a certainty yet...not even close to a certainty in fact). This won't affect your next trip at all.

I know, but i'm on intercot, which means i'm a disney fanatic and i plan on going more than once in my lifetime haha.

This would effect future trips for us, not the current one. :mickey:

DizneyFreak2002;2459280 wrote: Ummmm..... you sure about that?

It was a leaked survey question. There has been no official mention by Disney that they are going to this. Yet.

Main Street Jim;2459213 wrote: The theme parks close in attendance phases that are set by the Fire Marshal of Reedy Creek Improvement District, the "governing body" of Walt Disney World.

If more guests are moving into "indoor attractions and shows", that means "more room for guests on the streets", so more guests actually make it *into* the parks. If guests are NOT "moving indoors" (shopping and dining included), then the park may close due to attendance earlier than you would think.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. While understand that they have a set number of where they currently cap it, I've certainly been in the park at certain times where it was packed shoulder to shoulder (in a walkway, not waiting for fireworks or a parade), honestly unable to move in any direction, where I've been truly concerned about what would happen if an emergency came up. That, to me, says that they need to reevaluate their numbers cap.

BrerGnat;2459285 wrote: It was a leaked survey question. There has been no official mention by Disney that they are going to this. Yet.

Um, it wasn't leaked... At least not by some random person anyway... It may APPEAR to be a random person getting a random survey... it wasn't... It was leaked by Disney... purposely... So, yea in that sense it was leaked... They are just trying to soften the blow when this comes to be... Maybe it is better described as being planted by Disney... Not leaked...

DizneyFreak2002;2459299 wrote: Um, it wasn't leaked... At least not by some random person anyway... It may APPEAR to be a random person getting a random survey... it wasn't... It was leaked by Disney... purposely... So, yea in that sense it was leaked... They are just trying to soften the blow when this comes to be... Maybe it is better described as being planted by Disney... Not leaked...

Can you prove this?

We have talked it over and have decided if this does become fact, we are not renewing our APs. We will try some of the other attractions in the area. Corporate Disneys first mistake was hiring Staggs. Greedy man

BrerGnat;2459304 wrote: Can you prove this?

Can I? Yep... Will I? Nope... Not going to reveal names, sources, nothing... Sorry, but I rather keep the trusted sources than burn bridges and get people in trouble... You should know and understand that...

But think about who "leaked" the survey (a lifestyler originally), and how fast the media suddenly picked up on it from said lifestyler... Connect the dots...

DizneyFreak2002;2459324 wrote: Can I? Yep... Will I? Nope... Not going to reveal names, sources, nothing... Sorry, but I rather keep the trusted sources than burn bridges and get people in trouble... You should know and understand that...

But think about who "leaked" the survey (a lifestyler originally), and how fast the media suddenly picked up on it from said lifestyler... Connect the dots...

What in the world would Disney gain by purposefully leaking something that almost everyone is outraged by and completely against? Seems like a really stupid move. If they were going to seriously implement this, they would do it with NO warning, and not give anyone time to analyze it or post it all over the internet and Twitter. Otherwise they spend a whole lot of time and effort dealing with a p.o.ed customer base before the darn change is even made.

BrerGnat;2459326 wrote: What in the world would Disney gain by purposefully leaking something that almost everyone is outraged by and completely against? Seems like a really stupid move. If they were going to seriously implement this, they would do it with NO warning, and not give anyone time to analyze it or post it all over the internet and Twitter. Otherwise they spend a whole lot of time and effort dealing with a p.o.ed customer base before the darn change is even made.

One advantage would be so they could say "we listened to the survey response and we heard you", and then instead of implementing the pricing scheme proposed in the survey, they simply raise prices in a different or less dramatic method, which doesn't seem quite so harsh or steep as the surveys made it appear that it would. Businesses do this kind of thing all the time, they test the waters with some kind of really big dramatic proposal, and then implement instead smaller, less startling change that customers don't oppose so vehemently. They end up in the long run with the same deal, only in really small steps. Kinda like the frog in the pot of at first cool water, but slowly, slowly, coming to a boil without ever jumping out.

I understand that method, but it's no secret that Disney raises ticket prices approximately twice yearly. Anything less would be shocking at this point.

Main Street Jim;2459213 wrote:

As far as the Halloween and Christmas parties, "sold out" usually meant about 35,000 people in the park - which is a *good* summer crowd. I've talked to my CM friends when I first started hearing complaints of the "crowds" during the parties, and have been told that that number was upped to about 38-40,000. You also have to remember that during those parties, not all attractions/shows/dining is open during those times, so that's that much "less room" where guests can go to alleviate the percieved "crowdedness".

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We entered the MK for MNSSHP about 5:15 pm. Very crowded. We stayed until almost midnight, mainly because we wanted to ride the Mine Train - wait time never got below 45 minutes. (we sucked it up and did ride). The crowds never let up - lines, lines and more lines.

Had last done the MNSSHP several years ago when the price for adults was $34.95. Wonderful evening not too crowded, just enjoyed everything. Not any more.

mrte62;2459370 wrote: We entered the MK for MNSSHP about 5:15 pm. Very crowded.

...because you had MNSSHP guests that came in at the 4:00 timeframe, plus day guests that were already in the park (and allowed to do so until 7:00pm).

mrte62;2459370 wrote: We stayed until almost midnight, mainly because we wanted to ride the Mine Train - wait time never got below 45 minutes. (we sucked it up and did ride). The crowds never let up - lines, lines and more lines.

Again, because it's a "new" attraction and "everyone wants to ride the new stuff".

mrte62;2459370 wrote: Had last done the MNSSHP several years ago when the price for adults was $34.95. Wonderful evening not too crowded, just enjoyed everything. Not any more.

I agree - the "hard-ticket" events should be price- and attendance-capped, not nearly worth the almsot-$70 ticket these days, especially when they're taking things away and not adding to the experience...

Main Street Jim;2459372 wrote: . . . I agree - the "hard-ticket" events should be price- and attendance-capped, not nearly worth the almsot-$70 ticket these days, especially when they're taking things away and not adding to the experience...

I don't think the parties are worth that price either, but apparently at least 35,000 to 40,000 people per night disagree with us, because they are buying them.

Makes it hard to blame Disney for selling them when demand is apparently so much greater than capacity.

Goofy4TheWorld;2458987 wrote: Today is my first day back after spending 10 days at Disney, and for the first time I was at Disney during a holiday weekend (Memorial Day).

After being able to compare MK over Memorial Day to MK during the week, I spent a lot of time thinking to myself that Disney has got to do something to taper down these excessive crowds during peak times. One night while exiting MK over the holiday weekend I was genuinely scared that a stampede could break out so easily and that CMs would have no way to stop it, it was just that tense.

While I don't like what I have read so far about this ticket pricing, Disney has got to do something, and not much works better to control public behavior than cash.

If this was the Saturday before Memorial Day after Wishes we must have been at the same place thinking the same thing. Disney really needs to do something about the crowd situation. I really thought we were going to have a bad situation on our hand. I even told both my children if something happens and you get pushed don't wait up just meet at Space Mountain. My son is prone to panic attacks in crowds and I told my husband, if he starts to panic we are in big trouble. I was struck by one woman with a stroller 3 times. I could stop or scoot to the side. The crowd was all together. Not a good situation.

I agree something has to be done but I dont know if this is what they need. Maybe hire a better Event Coordinator. Someone who specializes in crowd control and how to get guest from A to B safely because I definitely didn't feel safe that night.