After years of fervent Internet debate, the pre-show for Rock 'n' Roller Coaster has been altered to eliminate what has been debated to accidentally resemble or intentionally be an offensive hand gesture.
The pre-show has been digitally altered to replace the hand gesture Steven Tyler makes against his forehead with the line "I love that idea" to stay an open palm.
It is unclear why this change was made just over 17 years after the attraction's opening.
Figment! aka Jason ºoº
INTERCOT STAFF
News, Rumours & Imagineering
Dining
Vacations Beyond Disney
~It’s what us storytellers do; we restore order with imagination, we instill hope again and again~
~We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things~
I never realized he made a gesture period, and had no idea what it means and I'm an adult. I'm sure kids don't know what it means either and most people I've talked to about the matter agree with me in that they didn't realize he made a gesture either.
"I want to be apart of your world."
All Star Music 2000-present & future
Dumb. 17 years and they make a change? Heck, I wasn't even aware of this "controversy" until they changed it. And I know what the symbol is and not once in 17 years did I think Tyler was making that symbol.
I noticed once that it vaguely resembled the shocker but it appears totally incidental. Who is the cry baby that got this edited? I swear I get tired of these small percentages of people making noise until they get their way.
1DisneyNut;2490317 wrote: I noticed once that it vaguely resembled the shocker but it appears totally incidental. Who is the cry baby that got this edited? I swear I get tired of these small percentages of people making noise until they get their way.
Can I say, "Amen"?
This drives me nuts. Probably .01% of the population has any clue what the symbol is supposed to mean (I don't, BTW), and I doubt that it was Steven Tyler's intention, or that it even meant that 17 years ago. But someone chose to be offended, and made a big deal about it, which draws attention to it and makes it far worse than it would have been had it just been left alone.
2002 - 2022: 20+ visits (POR, BW, All Stars, VWL, CSR, BLT, BC, SSR, CB, Dolphin, OKW, Poly, offsite x8)
DL - 1996, 2019
Next up - January 2023 short trip! We just want to try that 50th Anniversary chocolate monstrosity at Mexico!
You know, I've noticed that it was an odd gesture, but never interpreted it as... that. Seems like all they've done is make a mountain out of a molehill as it has become rampant all over the internet and Steven Tyler himself has had quite a potty-mouth response to the whole situation.
~M.~
All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them.
11 Trips to WDW
1 Trip to Disneyland
Many more to come
Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the lovers, the dreamers, and me.
17 years ago nobody knew (or cared) what it meant. But was long before the days of Social Media dominating the court of public opinion.
1971 (age 15) MK was new!
1974 off-site (Senior Trip)
1982 off-site
1988 off-site
May 2002 AS-Sports, with DW & kids
May 2004 Pop Century
Feb 2005 Wilderness Lodge
Oct 2006 Pop Century
Oct 2008 Camped at Fort Wilderness
Feb 2010 Cruise on the Wonder
Dec 2014 POFQ for Christmas!
PirateLover;2490326 wrote: You know, I've noticed that it was an odd gesture, but never interpreted it as... that. Seems like all they've done is make a mountain out of a molehill as it has become rampant all over the internet and Steven Tyler himself has had quite a potty-mouth response to the whole situation.
That's interesting as it's been in the news at least twice in the last year that ST's been to WDW so he must be a fan. I can't believe that at his age he's so rock & roll as to boycott Disney, but we'll see. I'd have to imagine there's some sort of licensing agreement where they still get paid by Disney to use the Aerosmith name. It's probably not a lot for them in the grand scheme of things, but again it's probably enough that he's not going to be too rock & roll as to demand his name pulled off the ride.
Beth & David
09/82 Treehouse Villas, 06/86 BVP, 10/95 CBR, 10/99 DI, 08/03 PORS, 10/05 POP, 11/06 AKL, 09/09 POLY, 10/10 Wonder, 05/11 Dream/PORS, 08/13 POLY, 11/13 GF, 04/15 POLY, 11/15 BLT, 11/16 Aulani, 03/17 BLT, 08/18 BLT, 07/19 AKL, 06/21 BLT
I now expect to see a LOT of PhotoPass ride photos with people showing this gesture, which if I knew what it was or what it meant, I may do myself!
Coming up... ???
25 Jun CR Garden (1 day)
25 Jan Pop (MLK weekend)
19 May Disney Dream, Nov Pop
18 Oct ASMv
17 Jan POFQ (10k!)
16 (APs) Jan POR, Feb CSR, April ASMv, June BC, Oct Pop & Cabins, Dec ASMv & AKL & Pop
15 May Pop & CBR pirates
13 Oct ASMu & AoA
10 (APs) June CR, Oct AKL & Pop, Dec Pop
07 March ASMv
04 June POR
94 June Dixie Landings (I think)
Goofy4TheWorld;2490374 wrote: I now expect to see a LOT of PhotoPass ride photos with people showing this gesture, which if I knew what it was or what it meant, I may do myself!
I think you are probably right. Whoever was offended by it, even though 99.9% of people had no clue what it meant, will now be seeing it everywhere. :(
1971 (age 15) MK was new!
1974 off-site (Senior Trip)
1982 off-site
1988 off-site
May 2002 AS-Sports, with DW & kids
May 2004 Pop Century
Feb 2005 Wilderness Lodge
Oct 2006 Pop Century
Oct 2008 Camped at Fort Wilderness
Feb 2010 Cruise on the Wonder
Dec 2014 POFQ for Christmas!
Goofy4TheWorld;2490374 wrote: I now expect to see a LOT of PhotoPass ride photos with people showing this gesture, which if I knew what it was or what it meant, I may do myself!
Google "The Shocker" or look it up on urban dictionary. Then let us know if you will be taking photo ops showing it. I think it is funny and even if Steven Tyler actually did do it on purpose I would find it humorous especially since he would have gotten away with it for 17 years. lol
1DisneyNut;2490380 wrote: Google "The Shocker" or look it up on urban dictionary..
Oh my, I just busted out laughing hysterically!
Before I Googled it I thought to myself "I wonder if I should be using incognito mode for this?" lol
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Coming up... ???
25 Jun CR Garden (1 day)
25 Jan Pop (MLK weekend)
19 May Disney Dream, Nov Pop
18 Oct ASMv
17 Jan POFQ (10k!)
16 (APs) Jan POR, Feb CSR, April ASMv, June BC, Oct Pop & Cabins, Dec ASMv & AKL & Pop
15 May Pop & CBR pirates
13 Oct ASMu & AoA
10 (APs) June CR, Oct AKL & Pop, Dec Pop
07 March ASMv
04 June POR
94 June Dixie Landings (I think)
But they play "walk this way?"
Hahahaha! I had to Google it...had NO clue what you were all talking about, although I have noticed that Steven Tyler made the gesture. I just thought it was a flamboyantly odd Steven Tyler Rock and Roll mannerism. I really don't think it was intentional. But, you never know. The whole this is hilarious, btw. Oh, and I agree that we'll be seeing it in photo passes everywhere, but I won't be doing it myself. For me, this is a case of TMI, now that I know. :blush:
Nice work, pal.
I"ll add that, being a person from MA, I have a soft spot for Aerosmith. While I have no real personal experiences to share, I've heard tons of stories about the band members' behavior out in the real world. I've only heard good things about them. Apparently, Steven Tyler is a really nice guy. Very respectful and good to his fans. My daughter lives in Nashville and works in a cafe that he frequents. Same there. He's super nice to staff and fellow patrons. So? I have a hard time believing that the gesture was intentional. Maybe he's lewd onstage at times (and let's be real...probably much less so than some younger bands these days), but I can't imagine that he'd be so disrespectful in something outside of that realm. Especially in a place geared towards family fun.
Nice work, pal.
