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(@Mr. Mouse 2 You)
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Did a search, and didn't see this specific question addressed, so apologies if it's been discussed.

If you only select 1 advance Tier 1 FP+ (eg Test Track), and no Tier 2s, can you then take your Extra FP+ (for Soarin') after you've used the 1st one? Or do you have to select and use or bypass the 2 Tier 2s as well, before you're eligible for the Extra FP+?

Thanks


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Posted : November 8, 2014 7:27 pm
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You need to select all three and they must all be used/expired before you can get the fourth.


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Posted : November 8, 2014 7:50 pm
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So then the plan would be to take 2 early Tier 2s, even if you don't intend to use them, just so you're eligible for the 4th one? Seems wasteful if you end up blocking somebody else from one of those Tier 2 slots.


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Posted : November 8, 2014 8:06 pm
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No you have to actually use those 2 tier 2's before you can get the 4th fastpass. Even if the selection expires you'll just have to select another tier 2 before you're allowed to try for another tier one. Once you have actually used all 3 of your original FP allotment (used, not selected and allowed to expire) then you can go back for #4 and the tiers at that point don't matter.


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Posted : November 8, 2014 9:20 pm
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I have said it before but i'll say it again. I don't like this at all.

I don't want my trip so planned. it really hurts on the park hopper idea.


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Posted : November 9, 2014 5:42 am
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Strmchsr;2439697 wrote: No you have to actually use those 2 tier 2's before you can get the 4th fastpass. Even if the selection expires you'll just have to select another tier 2 before you're allowed to try for another tier one. Once you have actually used all 3 of your original FP allotment (used, not selected and allowed to expire) then you can go back for #4 and the tiers at that point don't matter.

Thanks for the update Chris, is this a recent change? The Disney Parks Blog release had it list as used or expired as did the Mom's Panel in July.

Once you’ve used your first three FastPass+ experiences (or the arrival windows for your selections have passed) you can select a fourth from any available FastPass+ experience.

I can assure you from experience that you will be able to secure a fourth FastPass+ selection once you have used the first 3, or the time has passed for each of your FastPass+ selections.


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Posted : November 9, 2014 7:40 am
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VWL Mom;2439714 wrote: Thanks for the update Chris, is this a recent change? The Disney Parks Blog release had it list as used or expired as did the Mom's Panel in July.

It was used or expired for me in August.


 
Posted : November 9, 2014 9:18 am
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It was used or expired for me last month.


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Posted : November 9, 2014 9:52 am
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And used or expired two weeks ago.


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Posted : November 9, 2014 1:21 pm
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How about this...

Make your Tier 1 FP+ for the earliest time available. Make your Tier 2 FP+ after that.

Then, when you get to the park, ride the Tier 1 ride early on in the time frame. After that, see if you can move up your Tier 2 ride time. Either ride it (early on in the time frame), or let the pass expire. Then reschedule your second Tier 2 ride to the earliest time available. That way you can start booking extra (i.e. Tier 1) FP+ earlier.

Make sense?
Kathy


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Posted : November 9, 2014 1:57 pm
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VWL Mom;2439714 wrote: Thanks for the update Chris, is this a recent change? The Disney Parks Blog release had it list as used or expired as did the Mom's Panel in July.

It may have been a CM miscommunication (which, we know, happens often). When I was there a couple of weeks ago and tried to get the 4th FP after my other had expired (but not been used because lunch ran long) I was told we had to select another tier 2 and use it before we could select a tier 1.


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Posted : November 9, 2014 2:38 pm
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Strmchsr;2439751 wrote: It may have been a CM miscommunication (which, we know, happens often). When I was there a couple of weeks ago and tried to get the 4th FP after my other had expired (but not been used because lunch ran long) I was told we had to select another tier 2 and use it before we could select a tier 1.

Thinking you might be right about CM miscommunication because that's not the way it worked for us two weeks ago. We twice had unused expired tier 2 FPs and no problems with a new tier 1.


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Posted : November 9, 2014 3:24 pm
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Yeah, that doesn't sound right. When we were there a month ago, the CM told us that we should choose two shows for Tier 2 FPs, because they only have 20 minute windows, and thus expire quicker, allowing us to select the 4th FP much sooner.


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Posted : November 9, 2014 6:48 pm
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I am really glad I read this! Changed my itinerary big time! :thumbsup:


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Posted : November 27, 2014 1:30 am
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TikiGoddess;2439748 wrote: How about this...

Make your Tier 1 FP+ for the earliest time available. Make your Tier 2 FP+ after that.

Then, when you get to the park, ride the Tier 1 ride early on in the time frame. After that, see if you can move up your Tier 2 ride time. Either ride it (early on in the time frame), or let the pass expire. Then reschedule your second Tier 2 ride to the earliest time available. That way you can start booking extra (i.e. Tier 1) FP+ earlier.

Make sense?
Kathy

We were able to do this last week and moved up several fast pass times to get earlier 4th fast passes. The biggest frustration is that you have to be in the park to book the 4th fast pass there. For example, you can't be in MK and book a 4th fast pass for Studios later in the day. We wanted to book our 4th fast pass for the evening/night, but if we weren't going to that park that night, we couldn't do it. This was very limiting. Also, you can only change fast passes that day on the app or at the kiosks/cast members with ipads; you can only change future fast passes on a regular computer from the My Disney Experience site. We still had a great trip, but now we're learning how to navigate with these new limitations.


 
Posted : December 1, 2014 2:37 pm
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