Fixed Dispensers for Toiletries Appearing at Walt Disney World Resort Hotels

retiredfigment;2506000 wrote: I always bring my own shampoo etc. anyway. My question, how do they keep someone from opening them and putting something in it. Yucch!

I'm not sure I understand the repeated theme here that someone will doctor the products in some kind of devilish prank. I mean, what are the odds? Is it any less likely that under the old system mousekeeping would have "put something" in the little bottles? Or the people who work at the factory where they initially bottle them would put antifreeze or snot or whatever in them? Or in any one of hundreds of other instances where you have to rely on a human being coming before you to not do something awful to something you're going to use/consume?

I put my trust in the average disney visitor to not be a maniac.

Mendelson;2506001 wrote:

I put my trust in the average disney visitor to not be a maniac.

I don't. Kids, teenagers, lazy or crazy adults. Plus, just the idea. I try not to think about the other craziness left in the room, but the toiletries too? The crazy adults can't wait in line, not ram me w/ their strollers, etc. Besides, might not be something too crazy. But I can see if they come apart, or open up, someone will just put it together, regardless if they should have Disney come clean/fix it. Or resting their butt towel or whatever, on top of it.

Besides, my biggest complaint is just the cheap factor. I feel like I'm using a truck stop shower now, but paying a hefty price for it. They want to charge HOJO prices, then fine. Course, I won't stay there.

I think the adage, if it isn't broke, don't fix it, applies.

Mendelson;2506001 wrote: I put my trust in the average disney visitor to not be a maniac.

texas211;2506002 wrote: I don't.

I don't either!

I like to think that I generally trust the average person, but this day and age I want a sanitized bathroom and a sealed bottle of toiletries. If the dispenser is accessible without a lock I want to use individual bottles, if the lock is broken I want a new dispenser or use individual bottles. We usually bring my own shampoo etc. anyways because we always do run out of the resort supplied toiletries, but this next trip I think I will just plan to use all my own anyways just in case. I'm not even sure if our resort has converted to dispensers yet so the subject may be mute in our case.

Although I agree the odds of someone tampering with the toiletries are probably pretty rare, especially in the quality controlled manufacturing plant or at the Disney Mousekeeping level, but I think there is still enough chance that there are mischievous enough people out there that would tamper with it just to do it. Imagine a bottle or Nair or another hair remover mixed with the shampoo??

A small lock on the dispenser will just keep honest people honest.

Thanks for giving me the idea of spitting in the containers, or dropping a few drops of soda to see if the color changes in the dispensers. Just kidding, but who knows what a person might do. I never use ketchup from the bottles at a restaurant after I saw someone stick their used fork in the bottle to get the ketchup out. After that, that was the end for me.

Yeah, and I think that is the kind of stuff. Far less malicious, just more stupid human tricks.

retiredfigment;2506000 wrote: I always bring my own shampoo etc. anyway. My question, how do they keep someone from opening them and putting something in it. Yucch!

The container tops are locked in the tray and have to be opened by housekeeping in most settings. Hotelier here, keep in mind there are health regulations in place and those have to be met in order for those to be used. There are processes like changing bottles, pumps, cleaning procedures in place during room reset so the products are safe for the new incoming guests.

I first heard of these being used in very high end hotels at least 5-6 years ago. The idea is not new and Disney is far from the first. The high end hotels have worked on the usage and cleanliness issues. No hotel wants to risk bring the source of illness.

Also, this was started not to save money but to attract new younger clientele. Every year older guests stop coming and have to be replaced with younger ones. Eco tourists are one group who don't like all the bottles being thrown out. The other target group is millennials who want to use lots of shampoo etc and don't like the limitations of the small bottles. At best this will cost about the same or more likely a bit more.

I don't eat out, ever, because have you seen most chefs.

I don't buy clothes because I think maybe the Macy's associate rubs them with itching powder (or worse).

I steadfastly refuse to buy a house, because who knows who might have dumped a pile of termites on the foundation during construction.

Being constantly wary, you see, is exhausting. :-)

Mendelson;2506001 wrote: I'm not sure I understand the repeated theme here that someone will doctor the products in some kind of devilish prank. I mean, what are the odds? Is it any less likely that under the old system mousekeeping would have "put something" in the little bottles? Or the people who work at the factory where they initially bottle them would put antifreeze or snot or whatever in them? Or in any one of hundreds of other instances where you have to rely on a human being coming before you to not do something awful to something you're going to use/consume?

I put my trust in the average disney visitor to not be a maniac.

I read that the bottles are locked down so no one would be able to tamper with them.

I hadn't heard at it being at too many high end. I prefer them, and haven't seen this. Hopefully they'll try it at the Poly and Grand Floridian and see how it goes. When we do stay onsite, we tend to enjoy Dixie Landings, and so I hate they are doing it there at all.

As far as Millenials and Eco tourists.. Well, I won't touch that one. But alas I suppose this is one more reason, that the Disney hotels are no longer for me, if this is the new trend.

As far as Macy's. reductio ad absurdum But to play, clothes are washed first. I do limit my time out, and selective of where I eat, and as you can see, I live in Tx and termites are a way of life here.

I just feel its a crock of cheapness. ECO whatever. You can always label things like that. But in reality, its cheaper. Like how flimsy water bottles are now (most, not all). Supposedly better for the environment. But in reality, I'm sure done b/c less bottle is cheaper.

missymouseworld;2505944 wrote: I don't think it will catch on once people start pumping all the product out into an empty bottle....

HAHA - that's what I thought too!

Mendelson;2506010 wrote: I don't eat out, ever, because have you seen most chefs.

I don't buy clothes because I think maybe the Macy's associate rubs them with itching powder (or worse).

I steadfastly refuse to buy a house, because who knows who might have dumped a pile of termites on the foundation during construction.

Being constantly wary, you see, is exhausting. :-)

Everybody has their "thing" that bugs them. This doesn't happen to be yours, but I'm sure you have one.
And face it, you've heard the stories coming out of fast food restaurants - burgers getting spit on, pizzas with "special" sauce, etc. It isn't like it never happens. If you've never heard them, I'll be more than happy to share some with you. :P

I don't really think these people are too concerned about someone being malicious on purpose, but humans are nasty creatures. What if some little kid wiped his booger on the bottom of the container? Someone mentioned a butt towel draped over it. (Do people really have a special towel for their butts?) What if a couple gets "frisky" in there? Hmm, maybe I shouldn't add any more thoughts to those who are already grossed out by it.

Cinderelley;2507756 wrote: Everybody has their "thing" that bugs them. This doesn't happen to be yours, but I'm sure you have one.
And face it, you've heard the stories coming out of fast food restaurants - burgers getting spit on, pizzas with "special" sauce, etc. It isn't like it never happens. If you've never heard them, I'll be more than happy to share some with you. :P

I don't really think these people are too concerned about someone being malicious on purpose, but humans are nasty creatures. What if some little kid wiped his booger on the bottom of the container? Someone mentioned a butt towel draped over it. (Do people really have a special towel for their butts?) What if a couple gets "frisky" in there? Hmm, maybe I shouldn't add any more thoughts to those who are already grossed out by it.

Yeah, you made it worse.. much worse.

Sorry. ER nurses know no boundaries :fresh:

That does explain. Dealt with the type for many years..

NO limits

Yeah, just no excited about any aspect of this. I don't like community bottles in restaurants either. I've seen kids play with them, and i'm like,, yeap, nope...

I don't think we have to worry about "boogers." The human body is fairly resourceful and there are only a handful of "bugs" that people can't recover from. Hopefully the containers are controlled as noted, but hopefully no one is ingesting the products either.

I agree that there are a number of people, specifically millennials, that want eco-friendly travel and don't mind pumping their soap or shampoo from a dispenser (if they even take a shower).

I'll tell you what drives me crazy is people who think they are owed something because they go to a Disney resort. If you don't want to go then please stay home! People stealing soap and pens? Sure, maybe a pen or a bar of soap ends up in your bag, but enough to set up shop on eBay? People that leave their trash because, "It's Disney and they'll clean it up."

What is most disturbing is, whether intentional or not, people who a destructive on Disney's dime. Again, I don't if people think they do it because they think Disney overcharges or if it is just to test the limits. However if you wouldn't do it at your own home (jumping, climbing, pulling, picking) then why would you do it at Disney?