Annual Pass Changes

VWL Mom;2470903 wrote: What also bothers me is now each member of my family is being charged for it and won't use it.

That too... They should have made it an add on option for 1 or all passes bought on an account, not force you to have to buy it... But this is Disney where greed wins out and common sense does not exist...

DizneyFreak2002;2470910 wrote: That too... They should have made it an add on option for 1 or all passes bought on an account, not force you to have to buy it... But this is Disney where greed wins out and common sense does not exist...

I agree with it being an option. A nice add in where you're charged in one sum instead of paying here and there for pictures.
For us though it works well either way. I actually didn't buy the pictures much because they were kind of overpriced IMO. But Added in where I don't really "miss" the money I will definitely get getting them!
And for us I just get my sons the tier down so they don't have the option since we only need one.

I kind of disagree on Disney not caring though. The more I go over it the more I think they are just trying to make it more convenient. Like one price for everything. So you're not Purchasing a ticket, then purchasing pics, paying for parking, etc.
But I'm a glass half full kind of gal ;)

Terra;2470917 wrote: But I'm a glass half full kind of gal ;)

Of course Disney also will sell you a refillable glass:D

Wells;2470923 wrote: Of course Disney also will sell you a refillable glass:D

And that's why I buy when I'm staying at the resort ;) :mickey:

Terra;2470917 wrote: I agree with it being an option. A nice add in where you're charged in one sum instead of paying here and there for pictures.
For us though it works well either way. I actually didn't buy the pictures much because they were kind of overpriced IMO. But Added in where I don't really "miss" the money I will definitely get getting them!
And for us I just get my sons the tier down so they don't have the option since we only need one.

I kind of disagree on Disney not caring though. The more I go over it the more I think they are just trying to make it more convenient. Like one price for everything. So you're not Purchasing a ticket, then purchasing pics, paying for parking, etc.
But I'm a glass half full kind of gal ;)

Sorry, but they don't care about you... That's why I laugh when Disney fans defend the mouse with every last breath they have.... If they cared, they wouldn't be trying to rip you off...

As for the pass options, of course this will work for some people who feel they need to pay for every little thing Disney offers... And that's fine, what ever makes your vacation/stay better for you... But it doesn't work for many others... Why should I be punished because I don't use or want to use Memory Maker? Why should I have to pay for something I don't want to use? Disney's thinking only about bottom line, they aren't thinking about you... No, they aren't trying to make it easier... Essentially, they are stealing from guests making them pay for a service the guest isn't going to be or want to use, and yes, that is disgusting...

Again, if Disney truly cared, the prices wouldn't be so high and they would offer MM as an option on the annual passes not rob from their guests by making people pay for a service not used...

DizneyFreak2002;2471069 wrote: Sorry, but they don't care about you... That's why I laugh when Disney fans defend the mouse with every last breath they have.... If they cared, they wouldn't be trying to rip you off...

As for the pass options, of course this will work for some people who feel they need to pay for every little thing Disney offers... And that's fine, what ever makes your vacation/stay better for you... But it doesn't work for many others... Why should I be punished because I don't use or want to use Memory Maker? Why should I have to pay for something I don't want to use? Disney's thinking only about bottom line, they aren't thinking about you... No, they aren't trying to make it easier... Essentially, they are stealing from guests making them pay for a service the guest isn't going to be or want to use, and yes, that is disgusting...

Again, if Disney truly cared, the prices wouldn't be so high and they would offer MM as an option on the annual passes not rob from their guests by making people pay for a service not used...

The addition of Memory Maker was simply a way to justify a price increase. That is all. That doesn't cost the company any money, hardly, to operate (PhotoPass). It is almost 100% profit for them. They lose nothing when the majority of guests don't purchase photos or Memory Maker. But adding it in lets them say "yes, we increased the price, but look what you get with it." It's a psychological value add.

Not a FL resident... Would hope to retire there someday.

Never been an AP holder... Just don't go there more than once a year - makes no sense to have it.

BUT didn't anyone wonder where the Disney Company was going to come up the Millions to Billions of dollars needed for all the park refurbishments that are scheduled for the next 5 years?

Not to mention the parking lot price hike.

Greed?
Money Grab?
Disney Don't Care About You Anymore?

I'm not sure and I'm not arguing or looking for an argument...least not today.

I'm just wondering is all. Not like we are getting anything more for our money. They have HUGE bills to pay for enhancements. And I think the money has to come from somewhere to accomplish this. I doubt these AP price hikes are due to a wage increase for CM's.

I'm not in support of it but the impact to me is not there for the reasons listed at the beginning of my post. Sure I've paid other increases for clothing and admission and room stays over the years. Heck I do that yearly when going HOME. Guess I'm just not surprised at this hike is all.

OK...have at it.

BrerGnat;2471079 wrote: The addition of Memory Maker was simply a way to justify a price increase. That is all. That doesn't cost the company any money, hardly, to operate (PhotoPass). It is almost 100% profit for them. They lose nothing when the majority of guests don't purchase photos or Memory Maker. But adding it in lets them say "yes, we increased the price, but look what you get with it." It's a psychological value add.

And if I don't want to buy photos or use Memory Maker, then I am being charged for a service I choose not to participate in... Simply stated, they are stealing from guests who buy APs and do not want to use this service... it is worth it for people who do, but not for people who don't... Why should I have to pay for this? Raise the AP price like they have been doing anyway, just add MM as an extra charge option... it is a simple solution, but with TWDC management, anything to dig deeper into guests wallets...

DizneyFreak2002;2471082 wrote: And if I don't want to buy photos or use Memory Maker, then I am being charged for a service I choose not to participate in... Simply stated, they are stealing from guests who buy APs and do not want to use this service... it is worth it for people who do, but not for people who don't... Why should I have to pay for this? Raise the AP price like they have been doing anyway, just add MM as an extra charge option... it is a simple solution, but with TWDC management, anything to dig deeper into guests wallets...

So you would rather they increase the price without adding anything?

DizneyFreak2002;2471082 wrote: And if I don't want to buy photos or use Memory Maker, then I am being charged for a service I choose not to participate in... Simply stated, they are stealing from guests who buy APs and do not want to use this service... it is worth it for people who do, but not for people who don't... Why should I have to pay for this? Raise the AP price like they have been doing anyway, just add MM as an extra charge option... it is a simple solution, but with TWDC management, anything to dig deeper into guests wallets...

I agree it should be an add-on option. However, this is no different than offering ME to everyone for FREE, when not EVERYONE uses it. I can guarantee we're all paying for it, regardless.

They say potato, I say potato but we're still eating the same vegetable.

DizneyFreak2002;2471069 wrote: Sorry, but they don't care about you... That's why I laugh when Disney fans defend the mouse with every last breath they have.... If they cared, they wouldn't be trying to rip you off...

As for the pass options, of course this will work for some people who feel they need to pay for every little thing Disney offers... And that's fine, what ever makes your vacation/stay better for you... But it doesn't work for many others... Why should I be punished because I don't use or want to use Memory Maker? Why should I have to pay for something I don't want to use? Disney's thinking only about bottom line, they aren't thinking about you... No, they aren't trying to make it easier... Essentially, they are stealing from guests making them pay for a service the guest isn't going to be or want to use, and yes, that is disgusting...

Again, if Disney truly cared, the prices wouldn't be so high and they would offer MM as an option on the annual passes not rob from their guests by making people pay for a service not used...

And that's your personal opinion as well. I do think they care, you don't. You say potato I say p-a-t-ah-to. ;)

But to be honest, it's a little off putting when you assume that some of us "defend" to the last breath. Can't we just have a different way of looking at it. You come off a little rude in how you view "us" who love Disney and agree with some of their decisions.

GMRO;2471081 wrote: Not a FL resident... Would hope to retire there someday.

Never been an AP holder... Just don't go there more than once a year - makes no sense to have it.

BUT didn't anyone wonder where the Disney Company was going to come up the Millions to Billions of dollars needed for all the park refurbishments that are scheduled for the next 5 years?

Not to mention the parking lot price hike.

Greed?
Money Grab?
Disney Don't Care About You Anymore?

I'm not sure and I'm not arguing or looking for an argument...least not today.

I'm just wondering is all. Not like we are getting anything more for our money. They have HUGE bills to pay for enhancements. And I think the money has to come from somewhere to accomplish this. I doubt these AP price hikes are due to a wage increase for CM's.

I'm not in support of it but the impact to me is not there for the reasons listed at the beginning of my post. Sure I've paid other increases for clothing and admission and room stays over the years. Heck I do that yearly when going HOME. Guess I'm just not surprised at this hike is all.

OK...have at it.

Good way to look at it. Never really thought of it that way myself. And I'm even more apt to pay more for such enhancements!

BrerGnat;2471086 wrote: So you would rather they increase the price without adding anything?

This.

magicofdisney;2471087 wrote: I agree it should be an add-on option. However, this is no different than offering ME to everyone for FREE, when not EVERYONE uses it. I can guarantee we're all paying for it, regardless.

They say potato, I say potato but we're still eating the same vegetable.

And this.

It's one think to disagree with the hike, but it's hardly stealing.
I mean I think it's absoultely ridiculous that they charge 300+ a night for some of the hotel rooms [no hotel is worth that], BUT I don't think it's stealing by any means. Heck I think the $140+ for a "value" resort is steep. And I've paid it for the experience and never once thought of it as them "stealing from me".