Found: two finger tips

Tekneek;2424454 wrote: People think they can intuitively manage risk, but most humans do it poorly. The more you get away with a risky behavior, the safer it seems. It takes a lot of effort to overcome that natural human tendency.

Some might just chalk it up to Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection...

DizneyRox;2424512 wrote: Some might just chalk it up to Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection...

Indeed. That's what my husband and I say sometimes.

DizneyRox;2424512 wrote: Some might just chalk it up to Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection...

Keep in mind this is the same human tendency that caused NASA to keep launching shuttles with an O-ring design flaw and with foam falling off the external tank. They were getting away with it, so they kept on going and people died. So this really goes beyond just dumb people doing dumb things. It can manifest in an organization to disastrous effect.

Not knowing all the facts, this thread seems kind of harsh to the poor fellow who was injured. Maybe he was not doing some crazy, heinous stunt like trying to...gasp...touch the water, during the ride. Maybe he simply allowed his hand to drape over the side of the boat slightly? Perhaps not 100% in the RULES of WDW, but this is his vacation and I can't really blame him for assuming WDW is a safe, not merely magical, place to be??? I am sure I have occasionally made a mistake in the WORLD, sure hope I don't lose body parts for my next transgression !!!!

thejens;2424792 wrote: Not knowing all the facts, this thread seems kind of harsh to the poor fellow who was injured. Maybe he was not doing some crazy, heinous stunt like trying to...gasp...touch the water, during the ride. Maybe he simply allowed his hand to drape over the side of the boat slightly? Perhaps not 100% in the RULES of WDW, but this is his vacation and I can't really blame him for assuming WDW is a safe, not merely magical, place to be??? I am sure I have occasionally made a mistake in the WORLD, sure hope I don't lose body parts for my next transgression !!!!

If it were a 'casual' oversight, it would happen all the time and would have been fixed. The first insurance claim would have mandated it before it reopened. I'd say that before the ride was reopened, Disney has already figured out what happened and their legal department has already issued their opinion on whose fault it is and their chances in court. What really happens is another story, but they don't want two people to lose fingers, that won't bode well for them.

It's tough to lose your footing and slip if you're actually sitting down and keeping hands and feet inside the boat.

Actually refraction I believe makes objects appear closer than they are so the things you see in the water are probably much further out of reach than they look.

.......next new addition to the POTC ride boats:

Woven Nylon Hand Restraint Straps (like they have on some hospital beds).

.....and ...it will also deter the completely clueless from taking flash pictures too!!!

thejens;2424792 wrote: Not knowing all the facts, this thread seems kind of harsh to the poor fellow who was injured. Maybe he was not doing some crazy, heinous stunt like trying to...gasp...touch the water, during the ride. Maybe he simply allowed his hand to drape over the side of the boat slightly? Perhaps not 100% in the RULES of WDW, but this is his vacation and I can't really blame him for assuming WDW is a safe, not merely magical, place to be??? I am sure I have occasionally made a mistake in the WORLD, sure hope I don't lose body parts for my next transgression !!!!

Oh it IS fun and magical. But that doesn't mean you stop following the rules or only follow them sometimes.
The safety rules are there for a reason. "For your safety, please keep hands, arms, feet inside of the boat/car/etc at all times."

We probably are being a bit harsh, but at the end of the day, if a safety rule wasn't followed then there *are* consequences.
it's like a child, sure we all make mistakes, but if you choose to "make a mistake" even after being told, prepare for a consequence. That IMO isn't harsh.

I heard from one of the local Orlando news channels that the solution for now will be to not allow guests to load the last row of the boats.

What comes to mind? Longer lines at POTC now for everyone because of something that could have been completely prevented.

Believe me when I say that I am sorry that someone lost fingertips on POTC; however, it seems like a given that you would not hang hands or feet off ANYTHING moving, such as: cars, golf carts, or a boat at WDW.

Like many of you, I have been going to WDW since I was two years old. With the exception of sometimes striking the car in front of me at Tomorrowland Speedway when I was a kid, I have always followed the rules and used common sense.

It's too bad that the actions of others have to lead to alterations to the overall guest experience at WDW for everyone.

I saw this in an article posted this week. What I find interesting is another person, boy who is 12, lost four fingers in POTC. I still cannot fathom without doing something stupid and against the rules outlined many times before the ride how somebody can lost fingers on a sedate ride like this. It is a very slow moving boat dark ride.

Many of these injuries seem pretty mundane and not the fault of the park.

I just want to know why motion sickness is on here. The reason these problems are reported is because it required a hospital stay of 24 hours. I wonder how motion sickness could be that bad as to require a hospital stay.

Here are the reported injuries, according to the Sentinel.
Girl, 8, lost consciousness on Magic Carpets of Aladdin.
Woman, 51, was dizzy, short of breath and nauseated at Expedition Everest-Legend of the Forbidden Mountain.
Woman, 54, had motion sickness at Epcot’s Mission: Space.
Woman, 62, hurt knee in fall at Seas with Nemo & Friends.
Woman, 64, fell and fractured her leg at the Tomorrowland Indy Speedway.
Woman, 68, with a preexisting condition felt chest tightness on the Kilimanjaro Safari.
Woman, 70, had chest pains at Epcot’s Mission: Space.
Woman, 72, with a preexisting condition passed out after leaving Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.
Boy, 12, lost four fingers at Pirates of the Caribbean.
Man, 44, fractured leg at Typhoon Lagoon.
Man, 58, with a preexisting condition felt nausea and tightness in his chest at Epcot’s Mission: Space.
Man, 68, got a blood clot in his leg after falling out of the Astro Orbiter.

Here are the reported injuries at Universal:
Woman, 43, had head and neck pains at Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey.
Boy, 15, had “lower level consciousness” at Revenge of the Mummy.
Man, 18, had chest pains at Revenge of the Mummy.
Man, 61, felt weak after E.T. Adventure.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boy-lost-fingers-disney-world-pirates-caribbean-article-1.1874092#ixzz38CAxxY9O

I am trying to remember exactly where it happened but i remembering running aground once while on PotC. It was during summer so the boats where backing up and almost all full. I believe in the burning city or right before the dirty foot bridge my boat hit the boat in front of us. When the bottom behind hit us our boat went up on the guard rails and got stuck. Took the cast members awhile before they realized we were stuck and sent someone to dislodge us. I remember we could touch the streets on the left side of the boat.

Thinking of this incident I imagine someone could get their fingers pinched near that spot. The back row seats are slightly higher from what I remember so I don't think someone could get caught between boats if they were but it's possible.

Boost;2424968 wrote: I heard from one of the local Orlando news channels that the solution for now will be to not allow guests to load the last row of the boats.

I was in Disneyland this last weekend and they weren't loading anyone into the last row of the boats. They had blocked that loading row with a garbage can so they couldn't load into that row even if they wanted to.

The last row is our favorite. :(

If you follow the rules and no extenuating circumstances occur, not one can get hurt at Disney. :mickey:

If you look at the list I posted, the majority of incidents are older people have issues outside of the attractions.

Stupid people who don't believe the rules apply to them or feel they are invincible usually are the ones who have the problems.

Since Disney appears to be taking a mitigating action, there must be some previously unrecognized risk. There have been incidents in the past where no changes were made to the operation of attractions.