Frozen Ever After

Hammer;2460731 wrote: This is the reason (the line I put in bold print) why they won't put the money up. They are doing it for Frozen Ever After as they can justify the ROI to Wall Street. Do it for too many things and it will take too much money away from the bottom line.

Anyone who thinks you shouldn't put money back into the business is not a very good business man.

Cinderelley;2460742 wrote: Anyone who thinks you shouldn't put money back into the business is not a very good business man.

"People look at me in many ways. They've said, 'The guy has no regard for money.' That is not true. I have had regard for money. It depends on who's saying that. Some people worship money as something you've got to have piled up in a big pile somewhere. I've only thought about money in one way, and that is to do something with it. I don't think there's a thing I own that I will ever get the benefit of except through doing things with it. I don't even want the dividends from the stock in the studio, because the government's going to take it away. I'd rather have that in (the company) working..." —Walt Disney

"I knew if this business was ever to get anywhere, if this business was ever to grow, it could never do it by having to answer to someone unsympathetic to its possibilities, by having to answer to someone with only one thought or interest, namely profits. For my idea of how to make profits has differed greatly from those who generally control businesses such as ours. I have blind faith in the policy that quality, tempered with good judgment and showmanship, will win against all odds." —Walt Disney

Cinderelley;2460742 wrote: Anyone who thinks you shouldn't put money back into the business is not a very good business man.

I agree but modern business seems to be focused on short term gain, leading to long term loss (which the powers that be seem to think is someone else's problem)

AllyMonkey;2460868 wrote: "People look at me in many ways. They've said, 'The guy has no regard for money.' That is not true. I have had regard for money. It depends on who's saying that. Some people worship money as something you've got to have piled up in a big pile somewhere. I've only thought about money in one way, and that is to do something with it. I don't think there's a thing I own that I will ever get the benefit of except through doing things with it. I don't even want the dividends from the stock in the studio, because the government's going to take it away. I'd rather have that in (the company) working..." —Walt Disney

"I knew if this business was ever to get anywhere, if this business was ever to grow, it could never do it by having to answer to someone unsympathetic to its possibilities, by having to answer to someone with only one thought or interest, namely profits. For my idea of how to make profits has differed greatly from those who generally control businesses such as ours. I have blind faith in the policy that quality, tempered with good judgment and showmanship, will win against all odds." —Walt Disney

If only we could have someone in charge who truly loves the business. Walt wasn't perfect and yes he was a business man but he loved the business. :mickey:

Everyone likes to quote Walt, but these are quotes from the 1950's and 60's and the business world is not the same. We really don't know how Walt would have adjusted in today's business climate. We can guess, but we are using data from almost 50 years ago. How would he have handled the financial problems of the company in the 80's when Eisner took over? Would he have brought him in? Would he have tried to do it his way to save the company and possibly have the company be a part of a hostile takeover?

Hammer;2460887 wrote: Would he have tried to do it his way to save the company and possibly have the company be a part of a hostile takeover?

Given how upset he was when he lost control of his previous creations, I would think he would care the most about not surrendering control. He might prefer failure by his own hand than taking a back seat with a lavish retirement.

Tekneek;2460888 wrote: Given how upset he was when he lost control of his previous creations, I would think he would care the most about not surrendering control. He might prefer failure by his own hand than taking a back seat with a lavish retirement.

I think that is what would have happened as well.

Hammer;2460887 wrote: Everyone likes to quote Walt, but these are quotes from the 1950's and 60's and the business world is not the same. We really don't know how Walt would have adjusted in today's business climate. We can guess, but we are using data from almost 50 years ago. How would he have handled the financial problems of the company in the 80's when Eisner took over? Would he have brought him in? Would he have tried to do it his way to save the company and possibly have the company be a part of a hostile takeover?

If Walt and Roy were still working together in the 80s, would the company have even had financial problems?

Cinderelley;2460894 wrote: If Walt and Roy were still working together in the 80s, would the company have even had financial problems?

The company had financial problems when they were together in the 30s, and 40s, and 50s. ;)

Cinderelley;2460894 wrote: If Walt and Roy were still working together in the 80s, would the company have even had financial problems?

Melanie;2460899 wrote: The company had financial problems when they were together in the 30s, and 40s, and 50s. ;)

Both great points to ponder. Would they have bought ABC? For that matter, how would Walt and Roy felt about the explosion of the cable industry? I think they would have embraced digital technology, but still tried to keep drawn animation alive.

Actually business (as a "thing") isn't radically different now. Most companies have the same goals and the core methods are startlingly close to what they were 50 years ago. Globalization has certainly put a unique spin on things, but the core principles are the same. Walt was different because his goals were different. He was consumed by the desire to create and innovate; two words that did (and do) scare the pants off financial types. He saw money as just another tool, not the end goal. If he lost a chunk on something (which happened A LOT) he would pivot and attack his projects from another angle. He was able to do what he did because he used methods that typical businessmen thought were insane. Unfortunately, it seems that his namesake company has for too long been run by "typical businessmen."

Tearin_it_up;2460002 wrote: I say put a Wall-E attraction in there! Nothing could fit Epcot more:cloud9:

We're Wall-E fans too. Any ideas on what this would or could entail? Helping to rebuild Earth?

baldburke;2461106 wrote: We're Wall-E fans too. Any ideas on what this would or could entail? Helping to rebuild Earth?

Certainly conservation and recycle. They could do so much! There is also the added Wall-E part of even taking care of your own health. Kind of a "Wonders of Life" thing.
And personal communication, human to human.
So many possibilities!!

I see a major bottle neck in front of that pavilion.

Susan A;2461347 wrote: I see a major bottle neck in front of that pavilion.

So true! There isn't a lot of space in and around that pavilion as it is.

Melanie;2461348 wrote: So true! There isn't a lot of space in and around that pavilion as it is.

I'm really hoping they set up the Que to handle it!!