The Cuts... They Just Keep on Coming

Polynesian Dweller;2478878 wrote: The real reason for the cuts has been in the press and on many other boards. It's cost overruns at Shanghai and losses at Disneyland Paris. The company's Parks division has to find cost savings to cope with these issues. Typical of most companies, all parts of a division have to help with the bottom line when one part of the division falters. This isn't a WDW management in their infinite wisdom type decision it's above them at corporate level. Learn the facts before you bash.

Um, in case you missed it, and you obviously did, here is what I posted LAST NIGHT...

DizneyFreak2002;2478826 wrote: These cuts are due to, well, now that the cat is out of the bag elsewhere on the net, Shanghai being a mess And cause Paris is sinking...

This just screams mismanagement... Shanghai is a disaster... Financially speaking... Paris is tanking... HARD.... Though recent events in Paris could have something to do with it, but not all of it... Paris was tanking before their terrorist attacks several weeks ago....

So record quarter earnings mean absolutely NOTHING... Management is so inept, they are now punishing other areas (WDW) cause they mismanaged Shanghai and have no idea how to fix or handle Paris...

So I knew EXACTLY what I was talking about... I knew EXACTLY what this was all about... Thank you for trying though... So maybe you should practice what you preach... Read before you try to bash....

Speedy1998;2478852 wrote: The only problem I have with this statement, is that companies usually make decisions like these based on forecast, not what happened in the past. Quite frankly, just based on the complaints I have seen on this discussion board in the last few weeks, it would not surprise me if Disney is forecasting a horrible year for the Parks and Resorts division.

Thing is though, it has nothing to do with any forecasts in attendance... it is because of what I posted last night... Cost over runs... Total mismanagement from every level...

But like Wayne said, even it was forecasts, then it would be Disney management's fault for a sudden decrease in record attendance.... But, that isn't the case...

:unsure: I just don't understand the rude tone. I just don't.

Terra;2478886 wrote: :unsure: I just don't understand the rude tone. I just don't.

+1

John;2478876 wrote: I like the Land too - even have taken the behind the seeds tour. That said, even that ride could use some TLC. Disappointed they took the human element out of it but that aside, the films in the beginning are from the 1980's and really need updating badly. How hard would that be to do? Show us what's going on in the 2016 and beyond agriculture wise. Surely there has been advancements since the time when Duran Duran ruled the charts! Why not also incorporate some new growing methods as well during the ride?

Finally, the fish tanks that have a single shrimp in them or a single eel where they used to be filled are kind of bad show in my opinion. Looking at huge Plexiglas tubes with one thing in them just isn't entertaining.

Overall, still like the ride, but as with other things in Epcot, it really could use some love.

....perhaps ...just maybe ....your "empty tank" & "empty tubes" experience was because you visited "Living With The Land" ......right before resort .....dinner time ...on 'seafood night' .... ;)

You can't have it both ways...
Lower Prices= more crowds
Better Park amenities= more crowds.
Only when attendance drops will we see "deals". This is with parks, dining, retail, and resorts.
Expansion is the only winner I see for both sides which they are doing a lot of.
Then we can complain it's too big or too much traffic.

JerseyDad;2478899 wrote: [QUOTE=John;2478876]Finally, the fish tanks that have a single shrimp in them or a single eel where they used to be filled are kind of bad show in my opinion. Looking at huge Plexiglas tubes with one thing in them just isn't entertaining.

Overall, still like the ride, but as with other things in Epcot, it really could use some love.

...perhaps ...just maybe ....your "empty tank" & "empty tubes" experience was because you visited "Living With The Land" ......right before resort .....dinner time ...on 'seafood night' .... ;)

Actually, the single shrimp tanks are because those are freshwater shrimp and they are aggressive and will fight if there are more than one. But, would be nice to actually learn that on the ride (Oh my education?!?!) instead of riding past what appear to be empty tanks, so point taken...

DizneyRox;2478917 wrote: Actually, the single shrimp tanks are because those are freshwater shrimp and they are aggressive and will fight if there are more than one. But, would be nice to actually learn that on the ride (Oh my education?!?!) instead of riding past what appear to be empty tanks, so point taken...

That is one of those things that the live tour guides used to mention when they were doing the commentary on the boats instead of the pre-recorded commentary we have now. I enjoyed Living with the Land much more when they had the live tour guides on the boats. That is another cut back to save money that drives me nuts.

Maybe it would be better to put something else in there instead of the Shrimp then...

Interesting. I didn't remember that about the freshwater shrimp!
They could really make it nice by adding some tropical fish possibly.

A dumb question now. I've been going to WDW since 2000, basically monthly.
But the song "Listen to the Land", I don't remember it. Was it associated with the attraction? Or the entire pavilion? I love that song!

Terra;2478925 wrote: Interesting. I didn't remember that about the freshwater shrimp!
They could really make it nice by adding some tropical fish possibly.

A dumb question now. I've been going to WDW since 2000, basically monthly.
But the song "Listen to the Land", I don't remember it. Was it associated with the attraction? Or the entire pavilion? I love that song!

But you can't serve tropical fish for dinner... ;)

BrerGnat;2478927 wrote: But you can't serve tropical fish for dinner... ;)

LOL true. I need to do the Behind the Seeds tour again. It's been about 13 years since I've done it.

Terra;2478925 wrote: A dumb question now. I've been going to WDW since 2000, basically monthly.
But the song "Listen to the Land", I don't remember it. Was it associated with the attraction? Or the entire pavilion? I love that song!

Listen to the Land was the original name of the boat ride and the theme song of that ride.

John;2478923 wrote: Maybe it would be better to put something else in there instead of the Shrimp then...

Just within the last 2-3 weeks they have put some very young tilapia in one of the tanks. It's a definite improvement over the single shrimp or eel that most guests rarely noticed.

BrerGnat;2478851 wrote: I haven't felt like returning to WDW for quite some time. And that is a new feeling for me. I'm willing to give them some time to work on the current projects and am hopeful that Epcot is next in line to receive some love. When they set out to completely overhaul a park, they have the ability to do amazing things. Here's hoping.

This. Completely. We just spent a 4 full park days at Universal. It was an easy, great time. When planning our trip, my kids asked to spend one day at WDW, but I said no. And, I AM the huge Disney fan in our family. However, I knew it would be a wasted day because we had not planned months out with FPs and would spend most of the day standing in line. Also, even though it has been 6 years since we were last at WDW, there really isn't anything new to see (other than Mine Train ride at MK, but see my first statement about no FP and standing in line).