Changes in Security Reportedly Headed to Disney Parks 12/17

BrerGnat;2475468 wrote: Also confirming that they no longer sell anything that has a trigger. No more Star Wars blasters, Buzz Lightyear blasters, bubble guns, etc. Even the little blaster key chains have been pulled.

I don't seem to be too bothered by the fact that they have additional security. I have not really thought too hard about it, but in the past thought it pretty ridiculous that my bag was being searched when persons with no bags were welcomed in. Never really made sense to me. What I do not understand is removing all toys with triggers. Am I missing something here? :confused:

cer;2475532 wrote: I don't seem to be too bothered by the fact that they have additional security. I have not really thought too hard about it, but in the past thought it pretty ridiculous that my bag was being searched when persons with no bags were welcomed in. Never really made sense to me. What I do not understand is removing all toys with triggers. Am I missing something here? :confused:

Yep. You can make fully functional guns with a 3D printer out of plastic. Since the raw material comes in all sorts of colors, it is feasible for someone to make a gun that looks like a toy. This is becoming a big concern.

BrerGnat;2475535 wrote: Yep. You can make fully functional guns with a 3D printer out of plastic. Since the raw material comes in all sorts of colors, it is feasible for someone to make a gun that looks like a toy. This is becoming a big concern.

Thank you for the insight, Natalie. Makes sense now.

BrerGnat;2475491 wrote: I respect your opinion, but what is the use of getting all worked up?

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Frankly, I am glad to see this stepped up security and don't live my life looking for things to be angry about.

I don't think I am worked up, and I certainly do not spend my life looking for things to be angry about.

BrerGnat;2475491 wrote:
It's not our place to say whether it is necessary or not.

About 75% of what we all talk/post about here on the boards is arm-chair Imagineering, whether we are calling the "no toy guns" absurd or we call the ADR system nuts, we can usually post those thoughts without concern that it "isn't our place".

TheVBs;2475498 wrote: And if there's a tragedy at a park that could have been easily prevented by a metal detector or extra bag checks? If hundreds of people are injured/killed, would you really say that was okay as long as you had the freedom not to walk through a little extra security? I would never put myself getting out of joint about extra security over people's lives. Period.

Personally, I don't really have a strong problem with the front of the park security being improved with detectors or scans, but I do believe outlawing plastic guns goes too far.

I do take offence to the suggestion that anyone who stands up and suggests that there is a line to be drawn on security in a society, and that line doesn't only have to be drawn by the most paranoid amongst us, has blood on their hands if something awful does happen. Despite more school shootings in history than I can count, I would imagine that most of our kids still go to a school which has no metal detectors, and that doesn't mean the school system's administrators are irrational or otherwise negligent for not greeting kids each day with the TSA.

DisneyGiant;2475428 wrote: I don't think the terrorists want anything to do with WDW.

You do know that WDW, Disneyland, and many other theme arks wer eon Al Qaeda's list of U.S. targets, right? Now, add that to ISIS, who is 1000 times crazier, and well....

BTW, I just returned from a week in WDW... Just missed the metal detectors going into use, but I did notice a larger sheriff presence, will K9 units... And yes, there are reasons for it... And no, that does not mean there is a credible threat, currently, of an attack at WDW.. But, as I posted above, WDW is a known target... Always has been, always will be...

To the extent that the additional security makes guests "feel" safer, it is a good thing. However, there is no amount of security known that can be 100% effective. I think it may be best to put things into proper perspective regarding these terrorist idiots......If you consider our vast country and the corresponding populace, then factor in the number of terrorist "attacks", your chance of coming to harm is statistically nil. In fact, you would be more likely to be abducted by extra terrestrial aliens from the planet Altair 4 (wherever that may be). Fear not and never let your heart be troubled... I would be more concerned about scheduling Fast Pass+ to get thru the quick security checkpoints thereby avoiding the "standby" lines.....

The Dad;2475555 wrote: In fact, you would be more likely to be abducted by extra terrestrial aliens from the planet Altair 4 (wherever that may be)

Altair is the Alpha(or brightest) star in the constellation Aquila, so Altair 4 would be the 4th planet in that star's solar system.

Altair;2475556 wrote: Altair is the Alpha(or brightest) star in the constellation Aquila, so Altair 4 would be the 4th planet in that star's solar system.

Good one Dave!

It's the elimination of the bubble guns that makes me feel the most safe. I mean, we all like bubbles but dear heavens THINK OF THE CHILDREN. We all know ISIS wants nothing more than to pop filmy substances on our clothing, temporarily staining our valuable theme park wear.

If they rebrand them as bubble blowers will they be kosher?

Goofy4TheWorld;2475543 wrote: Personally, I don't really have a strong problem with the front of the park security being improved with detectors or scans, but I do believe outlawing plastic guns goes too far.

I do take offence to the suggestion that anyone who stands up and suggests that there is a line to be drawn on security in a society, and that line doesn't only have to be drawn by the most paranoid amongst us, has blood on their hands if something awful does happen. Despite more school shootings in history than I can count, I would imagine that most of our kids still go to a school which has no metal detectors, and that doesn't mean the school system's administrators are irrational or otherwise negligent for not greeting kids each day with the TSA.

I agree that a line has to be drawn. WDW hasn't crossed the line with the extra security (okay, maybe except for the removal of bubble blasters, but if they're willing to lose out on the merchandise sales, I'm sure they have a good reason).

And, agree with you 100% that students shouldn't go through TSA style security to get into school. The fix for that problem has to be elsewhere and I hope it will be soon.

Mendelson;2475586 wrote: It's the elimination of the bubble guns that makes me feel the most safe. I mean, we all like bubbles but dear heavens THINK OF THE CHILDREN. We all know ISIS wants nothing more than to pop filmy substances on our clothing, temporarily staining our valuable theme park wear.

If they rebrand them as bubble blowers will they be kosher?

You are so funny! Thanks for giving me a laugh this morning.

Went to see Trans Siberian Orchestra in Hershey, PA Friday evening and, for the first time, had to be scanned before entering the Giant Center. They had a number of walk-thru metal detectors and a few wand-style scanners in operation and they did not seem to slow entry into the facility.

If Disney puts enough of these metal detectors in place - one for each bag check lane - it should not slow down the entry lines too much. By the time your bag is checked, you should already be through the scanner, get your bag back and proceed to the turnstyles. It might slow down those without bags, but is that really THAT big of a deal? (This is from someone who never has a bag with him.)

So children are not allowed to bring the bubble guns into the parks anymore at all?