Stand-by Fasspass tests????

After talking to someone, my understanding is this will be similar to how Universal handled Diagon Alley...

Let's take the Meet and Greet for Anna/Elsa... Wait times don't border on insane, THEY ARE INSANE... So, this test will offer a fast pass guests who are on line or those coming to the line, with a return time later in the day so join the standby line...

This is exactly what Universal did with Diagon Alley... They handed guests waiting in line a paper pass to return later in the day... And they did it for Gringotts as well.. It did cut the wait times down a bit.. Adding capacity is really the only true way to cut down wait times... Not adding FP+ or reverting to the old fast pass system for standby...

DonaldDuck1117;2425706 wrote: Except Disney stock keeps going up, up, up. So they must be doing something right.

I have a hard time believing you can't get in line with out one of these tickets. I think you can, the wait will just be horrible.

Stock price is going up because revenue is greater than expenses.

Raise prices and cut back spending and wall street is happy. WDW is doing both of those. Customer satisfaction is not figured into stock price.

From what I've read this is a test that will only last a few days, and yes, it means that generally you won't be allowed into the stand-by line without a "return ticket". The exceptions have been first thing in the AM (until the return line is full) and there was a report of the stand-by line re-opening quite late in the evening.

I think Disney was caught by surprise with the length of the Frozen lines, and the lack of natural "die-down". I can only image the feedback they were getting over the crazy long waits, and they felt they had to do *something*. Really though, it isn't worse than having people wait 5 hours to see Anna & Elsa.

At some point though, Disney is going to realize that they just need more attractions to deal with the attendance numbers. You can only manage the lines so much.

I really have no idea why some on here post, when all you write is negative, and you know who you are. I LOVE Disney, and I come here because of that, why you post so often I have no idea, except maybe you work for Universal, but other than that, no idea.

Disney is trying to make your waits in line shorter, and you're complaining about that? Will it work? Maybe, maybe not, but if they didn't you would just whine about the long waits.

And you should do some research and look up and find the facts to what this really is. It's actually a very good idea.

If this is used for anything other than Frozen, then I see this as a simple money-grab by Disney. They want to cut the Standby line off early enough to have cleared the que by the time park closing occurs, instead of paying CMs more to serve the "90 minutes" worth of people who got into line at Soarin' prior to 8:59PM.

They are return passes for the standby line. They were using them for the Captain Jack Sparrow experience in DHS at the end of June. You cannot get in the standby line without getting a paper pass. I don't like it. It's much like the old fastpass system where you had to run all over the park to get passes only with this system, once the passes are gone, there is no way to experience the attraction as the lines are now full.

DizneyFreak2002;2425695 wrote: TDO are the most brilliant people ever... Iger is the best CEO ever... Staggs is a genius... Rasulo knows what he is doing...

SAID NO ONE EVER....

Except stockholders :mickey:

kakn7294;2425739 wrote: They are return passes for the standby line. They were using them for the Captain Jack Sparrow experience in DHS at the end of June. You cannot get in the standby line without getting a paper pass. I don't like it. It's much like the old fastpass system where you had to run all over the park to get passes only with this system, once the passes are gone, there is no way to experience the attraction as the lines are now full.

Im sure a lot of people dont like it, but with 4 HOUR waits all day long they have to try something different.

I could be wrong, but I thought Universal was doing this same thing with the opening of Diagon Alley. These are different parks and circumstances, but is the Universal experiment working or failing? I have no idea, just looking for insight.

Maybe this is temporary (and/or for attractions where the standby line would have to be cut off hours before closing) and we are all getting nervous for nothing. Or this could be the new methodology and in that case - flame on :thedolls:.

You can complain about the state of the resort all you want, but, to say the Iger is a bad CEO because of that is short sighted and flat out wrong. The main job of a CEO is to make the business money, and Disney stock has never been higher and the company has never made so much money. A lot of that is due to the company acquiring other business-see Pixar and Marvel. You may not agree with the business world but Iger has expanded the company and made it even more of a giant than it already was.

Back to the return tickets-I think it's ridiculous. I have this nightmare future scenario where you won't be able to queue up for any ride on the future and you just walk the park aimlessly until you are allowed to enter the line.

KAJUNKING;2425760 wrote: Except stockholders :mickey:

Not all of them... ;)

dnickels;2425704 wrote: It's certainly in line with their goal of keeping people out of lines where there's no opportunity for impulse purchases and in other areas where they will constantly be passing gift shops or food carts or kiosks, though as Freak mentioned, I'm not sure that has actually been the result.

I'm really surprised they haven't started putting shops/carts/kiosks IN the line itself.

I fully expect to see just this in a year or two. Imagine all the revenue they are missing that could be realized from selling Anna & Elsa merchandise to guests/families while they are waiting in a 2-3 (or more) queue. Not to mention food and beverages.

Next up: for a "small" fee, you can buy a pass to be able leave the line to go to the restroom without losing your place in the queue. ;):D
The revenue possibilities are almost endless.

My problem with it is that if you were unable to obtain a FP+ time (not everyone understands this system or realizes that they can and need to obtain a FP), then you still had the chance to get into a standby line whether that's a 30 min line or a 5 hr line - it was your choice. With this new system, once the paper passes are gone, you have NO chance unless someone gives you their passes. This gives those that arrive late to the park for any variety of reasons (late arrival, breakfast, split park days) virtually NO shot of seeing the princesses. For some people, this may be their one and only chance.

So if I were going to Epcot in a couple of weeks I could have this thrown on me without any notice? Great.

First timers could show up to get in line for this attraction later in the day, only to find out they can't wait in line but rather you need to get a pass to come back and wait in this line. So they ask, "Where do I get this pass?" CM responds, "over there but we don't have anymore to give out because we reached our limit." But you could go over there and spend more money on food and souvenirs.

I could see where this was headed when they first let word out about this exciting new change to FP's. Either stay on property or don't come. I'm sorry ransam if this is really negative, but I'm disappointed they keep trying to fix something imo that wasn't broken.

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ibelieveindisneymagic;2425725 wrote:
At some point though, Disney is going to realize that they just need more attractions to deal with the attendance numbers. You can only manage the lines so much.

Exactly!

Instead of treating the symptoms, it is time to start treating the cause ....