RunDMV;2445451 wrote: your "stockpiling fastpass" comment has me scratching my head.
With the old system...I could have ALOT of fast passes in my wallet..I mean 6-7 easy. Disney never enforced the return time so you could just keep getting them as soon as the previous ticket told you you could .....with never using the first yet.
Even when they did enforce the return time...If you simply got one the minute you were able to...you could still really get a lot that way.
No different with FP+ One just to make sure that the moment you exit an attraction using the last FP+ that you pre selected...you need to run to the kiosk (just like we did the old system..only to the attraction) and get your 4th and a soon as you use it....bam, adios..make a v-line for the nearest kiosk...or cast member holding an iPad. And get another. And so on.
EeyoresBestFriend;2445362 wrote: Interesting that you mention single riders line as I have noticed that this appears to be the latest 'abuse'. I noticed that there were a lot of families in the line that when at the front would then say 'oh (s)he's too small/ afraid to ride by themselves - can they go with me/Daddy?' So then the family would split into groups of 2. Even though they were in the single rider line, I never once saw them denied and there were quite a few of doing that.
It's sad and reinforced bad behavior. :(
Oh, I've seen this enforced plenty, and we never go during "high" times. I'm seen parents pitch a fit when they went through the Single Rider line with their kids and then got split up. Poor CMs that have to deal with those people. We heard one flat out ask an irate Mom, "Ma'am, this is the SINGLE RIDER line. It clearly states that YOU WILL BE SEPARATED. Did you not understand that?" And when they refused to be separated, the CM made them go through the Stand-By line.
That was on Test Track, BTW.
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azcavalier;2449239 wrote: Oh, I've seen this enforced plenty, and we never go during "high" times. I'm seen parents pitch a fit when they went through the Single Rider line with their kids and then got split up. Poor CMs that have to deal with those people. We heard one flat out ask an irate Mom, "Ma'am, this is the SINGLE RIDER line. It clearly states that YOU WILL BE SEPARATED. Did you not understand that?" And when they refused to be separated, the CM made them go through the Stand-By line.
That was on Test Track, BTW.
I have also seen them enforce this rule - both on Test Track and on Expedition Everest.
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I think the new system makes you plan down to the minute and some people like to vacation that way, but my family likes to go with the flow...and having to plan every moment 60+ days out isnt fun....
i think the old fastpass system had its flaws as well, but at least when you actually had to GO to the ride to get a fastpass it spread people out around the park. if you wanted to ride everest first thing but also wanted to get fast passes for the safari you had to choose which direction you wanted to go in. i dunno. not a huge fan of FP+
It's my impression that the new system is designed for one purpose: to coerce guests to spend more on lodgings if they want the same quality of experience they're used to.
And this is coming from a person who believes capitalism is a big part of what makes this country great.
But there is something called price-gouging, and it's very unseemly. That's how I view this, which is why I use the word "coerce" and not "encourage." It's at the point where Disney management seems to want to charge "all the market will bear," and that's going too far, imo.
There's also a thing called corporate responsibility. Disney is a cultural institution that has become part of our national heritage. It's an increasingly profitable, major American corporation that owes its success to its loyal patrons. When they go too far with pushing the profit motive down our throats, they begin to descend the slippery slope of greed.
Walt would never have lost sight of his mission to provide a place where adults and kids can have fun together. Current management needs to back off a bit from these thinly-veiled money grabs. They make it increasingly difficult to ignore that people are manipulating our wallets, and to simply focus on the magic that Walt created, we grew up with, and for which everyone on this site has a special place in their heart.
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