Why so negative?

bdm@pga;2513284 wrote: NO, I get it....and I understand the process and the reason for the forums. I too want to know if something isn't good, or not worth my time. But What I was trying to highlight was not the constructive criticism, or the comparisons of old to new. It was some of the posts that are just, in my opinion, down right nasty. I guess it is my vision of the house of mouse through rose colored glasses.

Again, I too have some really bad experiences that I can share. I guess I am the type of person that just appreciates what INTERCOT does for us and what a great tool it has become for me. When I see a question about something I have had a bad experience with, I want to voice my option as well, but in a way that could be understood and appreciated, rather than bark "not worth the money!" and leave it at that.

I am a High School teacher, and even if your not,.

Sorry, but that made me laugh.

I keep thinking this thread title is "Why so serious" and I hear Heath Ledger's voice.

I think internet forums are always somewhat negatively skewed to a point. Anything that is done will have some people that like it and some that don't. Regardless of the subject I always think people tend to be more inclined to comment when they are unhappy with something than when they are happy. So if there are 10 people who like something and 10 that dislike it you will generally hear a lot more from the 10 that didn't like it! Hence why I often think the internet as a whole seems a fairly angry place - but in reality maybe it is just human psychology.

I think my views are generally positive. There are announcements I hear that I am sometimes not sure if I like at the time, sometimes I am then wrong, sometimes I was right and they don't particularly suit me. One thing that may help me is that I am not a regular visitor - there has always been at least 3 years between any two visits I have made. Combination of finances, distance and real life commitments have stopped it being more frequent. As a result when I arrive everything feels new again (or at least like meeting an old friend from long ago) which maybe helps keep the magic alive rather than just becoming routine.

1DisneyNut;2513279 wrote: I really don't see how anybody could possibly think Six Flags is a better experience than WDW in any way other than if all you want to do is ride roller coasters over and over.

That is probably why my friend loves it then. He and his kids just do the roller coasters over and over.

texas211;2513264 wrote:

And since clearly everyone is from the Hersey area, can I get a case of fresh hersey almond bars?

Wait. What? There's chocolate? Why isn't there a whole thread about this?????

texas211;2513264 wrote: And since clearly everyone is from the Hersey area, can I get a case of fresh hersey almond bars?

Sure!! Send your name address and a blank check and we can get a case (or two) sent out to you!!!

Might be able to get case lot discounts at Chocolate World!!

And maybe some of the new "Hershey's Gold" bars as well!!! :rotfl:

https://www.hersheysstore.com/HERSHEYS-Milk-Chocolate-w-Almonds-Standard-Bar-36-ct/p/HSY-002412&c=Hersheys@ByBrand@Hersheys

"Now here we find ourselves with the FP+ system where you have to plan almost every detail months in advance. It is cumbersome, introduces stress into your vacation and is just an all around time wasting, aggravating experience. You can find plenty of complaints about this new system but yet Disney ignores it because it helps them increase profit."

I still haven't figured out how moving to FP+ helps Disney increase profit. In fact, they spent who knows how many millions on the system. I think that it's poorly thought out, and that they really tried to rev up the PR Spin Machine by telling people "it helps you be more flexible!" when, in fact, it's anything but. There are some benefits to the system, but the most frustrating this is just having to change the way we approach planning. We had a great system, and when they rolled out FP+, we had to completely adapt to something new. I don't mind it so much now, but I don't like the way they set it up.

Cinderelley;2513352 wrote: Wait. What? There's chocolate? Why isn't there a whole thread about this?????

Right from the Hershey's factory just next door!

PopPhan;2513358 wrote: And maybe some of the new "Hershey's Gold" bars as well!!! :rotfl:

The Gold bars are good, but if I'm getting something sweet then I prefer good ol' fashioned chocolate. Have you done the chocolate tasting class?

baldburke;2513368 wrote: The Gold bars are good, but if I'm getting something sweet then I prefer good ol' fashioned chocolate. Have you done the chocolate tasting class?

Actually, no. I rarely get to Hershey itself, unless it is for a concert at Giant Center (TSO every Fall!!), HersheyPark Stadium, or the Star Pavilion.

PopPhan;2513358 wrote: Sure!! Send your name address and a blank check and we can get a case (or two) sent out to you!!!

Might be able to get case lot discounts at Chocolate World!!

And maybe some of the new "Hershey's Gold" bars as well!!! :rotfl:

https://www.hersheysstore.com/HERSHEYS-Milk-Chocolate-w-Almonds-Standard-Bar-36-ct/p/HSY-002412&c=Hersheys@ByBrand@Hersheys

I think I just died and went to heaven.

azcavalier;2513366 wrote: "Now here we find ourselves with the FP+ system where you have to plan almost every detail months in advance. It is cumbersome, introduces stress into your vacation and is just an all around time wasting, aggravating experience. You can find plenty of complaints about this new system but yet Disney ignores it because it helps them increase profit."

I still haven't figured out how moving to FP+ helps Disney increase profit. In fact, they spent who knows how many millions on the system. I think that it's poorly thought out, and that they really tried to rev up the PR Spin Machine by telling people "it helps you be more flexible!" when, in fact, it's anything but. There are some benefits to the system, but the most frustrating this is just having to change the way we approach planning. We had a great system, and when they rolled out FP+, we had to completely adapt to something new. I don't mind it so much now, but I don't like the way they set it up.

It increases their profit in a few ways. Primarily, it allows them to control labor costs by knowing in advance how busy particular attractions are going to be and scheduling employees hours accordingly. They also were able to reduce costs by removing the paper fastpass machines which required regular maintenance and plus they no longer have to buy the paper. Who knows how many rolls of paper they went through a day in all of those machines. Another thing FP+ does, is it sends people moving about all over the park going between their scheduled times resulting in them passing all of the merchandising along with refreshment and snack vendors. They sell more stuff because you are running about all over the park in an unorderly fashion. FP+ is all about business operational efficiency and consumer spending......not customer enjoyment as they try to spin it. It makes me want to smack a PR person every time I hear the "FP+ allows guest to be more spontaneous." It could not be any farther from creating spontaneity, it is actually completely opposite creating rigidity.

Careful, 1DisneyNut, using logic and facts is dangerous!!!! :thedolls:

bdm@pga;2513284 wrote: NO, I get it....and I understand the process and the reason for the forums. I too want to know if something isn't good, or not worth my time. But What I was trying to highlight was not the constructive criticism, or the comparisons of old to new. It was some of the posts that are just, in my opinion, down right nasty. I guess it is my vision of the house of mouse through rose colored glasses.

Again, I too have some really bad experiences that I can share. I guess I am the type of person that just appreciates what INTERCOT does for us and what a great tool it has become for me. When I see a question about something I have had a bad experience with, I want to voice my option as well, but in a way that could be understood and appreciated, rather than bark "not worth the money!" and leave it at that.

I am a High School teacher, and even if your not, I am sure we have all had those people who when given a new idea or concept are the first ones to just comment negatively..."Doin it this way for 30 years, ain't gonna change now!...Tried that before and it was terrible.."...you all know those types. I would rather hear why it failed, and then decide for myself to try it or not. Anyway, I guess I just was loving in fantasyland...But I appreciate all of your responses and for the taking the time to give your explanations.

I think the thing that some of us have to remember is that we can do a better job of reading the intent behind original posts. If someone is coming on the boards, excited about an upcoming trip and wanting to share that excitement, then they don't need to inundated with negative replies. Something truly helpful, a heads up--yes. But I'll admit some people seem to relish the nay-saying. I'm reminded of something that happened back when I was pregnant with my son (26 years ago!) I was the acting Nurse Manager on an Oncology Unit and one day I was in the elevator with one of the (older) nursing students taking care of patients on my floor. She asked me if this was going to be my first child and when I enthusiastically said yes, she replied with "Well, I am a mother of four and I don't envy you one little bit! You will get no peace and quiet for the next 20 years!" I was so taken aback I didn't know how to respond. Was it her personal experience? For sure. Was it necessary for her to share it in that moment? Of course not! The only person it served was herself and whatever issues she was having/had with her kids and needed to vent. But as an expectant mom, it certainly cast a bit of a pall on the moment.

Back to INTERCOT. Now for the threads that are started strictly for criticism and/or feedback, I would advise the folks that are offended by that to pass those threads by. No need to drag down your mood that way. Just my opinion.

azcavalier;2513366 wrote: "Now here we find ourselves with the FP+ system where you have to plan almost every detail months in advance. It is cumbersome, introduces stress into your vacation and is just an all around time wasting, aggravating experience. You can find plenty of complaints about this new system but yet Disney ignores it because it helps them increase profit."

I still haven't figured out how moving to FP+ helps Disney increase profit. In fact, they spent who knows how many millions on the system. I think that it's poorly thought out, and that they really tried to rev up the PR Spin Machine by telling people "it helps you be more flexible!" when, in fact, it's anything but. There are some benefits to the system, but the most frustrating this is just having to change the way we approach planning. We had a great system, and when they rolled out FP+, we had to completely adapt to something new. I don't mind it so much now, but I don't like the way they set it up.

It allows them the pack more people in the park by artificially spreading people out.