And yet the rides, and land will be packed when opened.
TinkerbellT421;2454157 wrote: I guess I don't understand how people can say that it doesn't have a following. Has anyone ever actually researched and seen the records it actually broke? Okay, it didn't hit Frozen records, but it made a boat load of money. And does actually have a huge following including super fan fiction stories all over the internet, a huge appearance at comic con's and such. Just because some Disney fans didn't like the movie, doesn't mean it never grew an outside Disney fan base.
Avatar is still the number one movie all time movie at the box office... Frozen didn't come close... Avatar did 2.7 billion total box office, Frozen 1.3 billion total box office... Furious 7 is about to pass Frozen... SO Avatar actually surpassed Frozen... It can be said Frozen never hit Avatar records... In fact, as successful as Frozen was, it didn't break any records according to Box Office Mojo... only records it has, and they are minor in my opinion, is All Time Thanksgiving 3 Day Opening and All Time Thanksgiving 5 Day Opening...
Avatar and Avengers appear on that list many times...
You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway.
- Walt Disney
DonaldDuck1117;2454171 wrote: And yet the rides, and land will be packed when opened.
And you will be correct...
Again, IP doesn't make a lick of difference (ok it does to a certain extent but not to the extent that people think)... Do a well made land, well themed, with state of the art attractions in which people want to go on, and people will come... Cheap out, and you have a recipe for failure, no matter the IP...
You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway.
- Walt Disney
Exactly. And I am very hopeful Dusney is going to create an immersive environment. AK needs it.
DonaldDuck1117;2454480 wrote: Exactly. And I am very hopeful Dusney is going to create an immersive environment. AK needs it.
They will... I have no doubt in my mind Imagineering and Cameron will build one heck of a land... The issue is Park Ops getting control of it.. That is when things tend to go to the dumper LOL...
You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway.
- Walt Disney
DizneyFreak2002;2454530 wrote: They will... I have no doubt in my mind Imagineering and Cameron will build one heck of a land... The issue is Park Ops getting control of it.. That is when things tend to go to the dumper LOL...
Isn't Cameron investing some of his own money into this? If so I hope he can stop TDO from going cheap.
I am hoping that Disney is finally responding to Universal. Disney basically say on their hands the last decade while Universal closed the gap. Granted, Disney was working on my magic+ but still. The Fantasyland expansion was very nice and the mind ride is all sorts of fun. Now we are getting Avatarland and Studios redo soon. Just my opinion but I think Disney has finally taken notice and is going to up their game.
seanyred;2454567 wrote: Isn't Cameron investing some of his own money into this? If so I hope he can stop TDO from going cheap.
Didn't hear anything about that... So I can't say Cameron is investing any of his own money into the land... Doubt it.. He'll be getting paid for the rights though... And I'm sure he has a nice little clause in the contract stating he gets a nice chunk of the merchandise profits... Though, not sure how much merchandise will be moved... Have to see what they sell first...
Cameron wanted a flying coaster... They aren't building it... If he was using some of his money, he would have gotten that flying coaster... I would think...
This is a project the big dogs in California are in charge of... Though budgets seems to have been slashed (typical in any project), what Imagineering is creating hasn't been skimped on too much...
I'm hoping Cameron has as much power over Disney as Rowling and WB has over Universal with Potter... Then Disney will be forced to fix things when they aren't working right...
Now, if only Cameron could force them to fix that yeti...
You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway.
- Walt Disney
JerseyDad;2448378 wrote: ...Avatar is something that just doesn't "scream" ...DISNEY.
....so ...I couldn't care less. (unless it funnels tons of park goer traffic in its direction ...and frees up other attractions for me...)
Ah....this is just 110% incorrect.
Avatar is 200% Disney...through and through...
It is and the next movie will also be one of the highest grossing movies of all time. Avatar land is going to be a major draw for Animal Kingdom. I don't see how someone could be a fan of Disney and not "get" or understand the movie or the new land being built. They go hand in hand. Its a no brainer.
Let's make this a bit more interesting.....
3 Avatar movies coming up 2016, 2017 & 2018 and just this evening I saw a trailer for a new Cirque du Soleil show --- Toruk - The First Flight Inspired by James Cameron's Avatar.
I am thinking that Disney knew a lot more than they let on before starting on this Pandora project.
"The game never ends
When your whole world depends
On the Turn of a Friendly Card"
Supposedly at first Disney was looking to just create one attraction based on the ride for Studios. Then after discussions Tom Staggs floated the idea of making it an immersive land with a conservation message in a park that desperately needed a boost.
I really hope Staggs is the one to take over for Iger. He seems to be one who understands that I order to make money, you need to spend money. I also think he was instrumental in getting the New Fantasyland redone after the initial plans were announced (a bunch of princess meet and greets). He is very different than Rasulo who likes to strip projects of budget and be extremely tight with finances.
I think it looks like a gate.
I can't wait to walk through it. :thumbsup:
1980 Disneyland
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2008 AKL
2010 CBR
2011 POFQ & WL
2012 CSR & Contemporary
2013 Villas @ WL Christmas Family Trip
2014 YC 25th Anniversary Trip
2015 AoA Spring Family Trip
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Finally watched the movie! DH had seen it before, but this was the first time for the girls and I. Visually - WOW! I can certainly see how WDW can make an amazing looking land using scenes from the movie.
Plot-wise, I couldn't have been more underwhelmed. It couldn't have been more predictable, the dialog was cheesy. The final scene was a bit more exciting, but still predictable. I don't think I would have sat through the whole thing if Disney wasn't adding it to AK.
The girls really loved it and DH really enjoyed it - so, overall, we'll be excited to see the addition.
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